-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by :FireTom
I was more thinking of something like this -
Written by :ft
Even a bicycle helmet like the one you displayed - as previously mentioned: many helmets do give a false feeling of protection. Any neck protection on this one? ...
Written by :ft
As to your use of i-words: ..... *coughs* no I'm not going to respond to that and join the rising economy of the i...ndians...
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i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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Written by :Rouge Dragon
I find it interesting how many people don't support compulsory helmets because for adults because basically it's the adult's prerogative as to their life or not. And that's the way I used to think, until I was reminded that even though it's only an individual who gets hurt, other people can suffer.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Written by :Rouge Dragon
But so why compulsory for children? Because why can't their parents (as adults, we'll assume) decide for them as they would decide for themselves?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Written by Lightning
Folks, please wear your helmets for biking and skating and climbing. I know they're uncomfortable, but severe brain damage is far worse. And parents, the rule with your kids should be: "If I ever catch you riding or skating without a helmet, you will do neither for one year.”
Written by Lightning
I oppose legislation forcing adults to wear safety belts or bike helmets. I support it for those under the age of majority.
Written by Lightning
I'm sorry, but I'd rather pay a bit than give into a nanny state. I value the personal freedom of adults above their right to be free from harm. And I definitely value personal freedom more than I value "cost to society." In my view, if you aren't directly harming someone else in a tangible manner, you should have the right to do whatever you like. I'd rather have to pay some money, or risk someone being "offended."
Written by Rouge
I think that compulsory helmets reflect the attitudes of the general community towards cyclists. The more anti-cyclist the community is (like Australia) the more likely they are to have compulsory helmets.
I'm actually fine with compulsory helmet wearing, given the state of emotions here. It just makes me sad that they're required.
Written by Lurch
But there are plenty of arguments against full face helmets on motorcycles.
Written by Lurch
Well from the motorcyclists point of view, most of the oldschool guys that don't wear helmets don't because they're rather be dead than brain damaged.
Written by Lurch
Besides, if you think about it they're helping just as much as they're hurting, think of all those perfectly good organs they're donating when they die.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by : Nat
people who chose to spin fire.. maybe we shouldn't get free burns medical care...
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by :Stone
Using the road is a privilege not a right. By your reckoning there should be no speed limits, no road laws and people should be able to do anything they want to on public roads.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
#homeofpoi -- irc.newnet.net Come talk to us we're bored
Warning: Please Do Not Jump On The Seals
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by :Lurch
2. While they protect the brain, they're much more likely to cause spinal trauma during an accident due to the increased weight.
3. MUCH more likely to cause even more spinal trauma after the accident because of medical personnel doing what they've been taught.
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
Written by :
If this boy had been wearing his helmet, he would just have a dislocated ankle.
Written by :
If this boy had been wearing his helmet, he would just have a dislocated ankle.
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But you can make the Bastard work for it."
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"Last of The Lancers"
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Written by :Stone
Lurch, I’ve ridden bikes for years and done all the helmet laws suck stuff. None of those reasons are really valid.
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Written by OWD
I'm not going to personally comment on this, but, having read numerous helmet debates on other forums, I will mention that many who oppose helemt laws for cycles, always will point out that, whenever someone says 'my helmet saved my life when I crashed', or, 'that person who's just died from head injuries that would have been prevented if they had a helemt on', that it's speculation only.
Written by Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
There are 85 million bicycle riders in the US.
770 bicyclists died on US roads in 2006, down just 14 from the year before. Over 90 percent died in crashes with motor vehicles.
The "typical" bicyclist killed on our roads is a sober male over 16 not wearing a helmet riding on a major road between intersections in an urban area on a summer evening when hit by a car.
About 540,000 bicyclists visit emergency rooms with injuries every year. Of those, about 67,000 have head injuries, and 27,000 have injuries serious enough to be hospitalized.
Bicycle crashes and injuries are under-reported, since the majority are not serious enough for emergency room visits. 44,000 cyclists were reported injured in traffic crashes in 2006.
1 in 8 of the cyclists with reported injuries has a brain injury.
Two-thirds of the deaths here are from traumatic brain injury.
A very high percentage of cyclists' brain injuries can be prevented by a helmet, estimated at anywhere from 45 to 88 per cent.
Direct costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $81 million each year.
Indirect costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $2.3 billion each year.
Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
Written by Monash Uni Accident Prevention Centre
A law which required all bicyclists to wear an approved bicycle safety helmet came into effect in Victoria on 1 July 1990. This resulted in an increase in the estimated overall helmet wearing rate from 31% to 75%. Based on TAC claims, in the first 12 months after the introduction of the law there was a reduction of 51% in the number of bicyclists with a head injury killed or admitted to hospital and the corresponding number without a head injury dropped 24%. In the second year the corresponding reductions were 70% and 28% respectively.
While the large reduction in head injuries was a clear indication of the effect of the law, the reduction among bicyclists without a head injury was shown to be at least partly a result of reduced cycling, particularly among teenagers (Finch et al. 1992). A portion of both drops may of course be attributable to the economic downturn, or the speed camera and RBT programs.
Monash Uni Accident Prevention Centre
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by :StoneWritten by OWD
I'm not going to personally comment on this, but, having read numerous helmet debates on other forums, I will mention that many who oppose helemt laws for cycles, always will point out that, whenever someone says 'my helmet saved my life when I crashed', or, 'that person who's just died from head injuries that would have been prevented if they had a helemt on', that it's speculation only.
OWD, I don’t thinks it’s so much speculation when you are looking at what is left of your helmet, and you are eternally grateful it’s not your head. Anyhow, lets end the speculation.
Written by Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
There are 85 million bicycle riders in the US.
770 bicyclists died on US roads in 2006, down just 14 from the year before. Over 90 percent died in crashes with motor vehicles.
The "typical" bicyclist killed on our roads is a sober male over 16 not wearing a helmet riding on a major road between intersections in an urban area on a summer evening when hit by a car.
About 540,000 bicyclists visit emergency rooms with injuries every year. Of those, about 67,000 have head injuries, and 27,000 have injuries serious enough to be hospitalized.
Bicycle crashes and injuries are under-reported, since the majority are not serious enough for emergency room visits. 44,000 cyclists were reported injured in traffic crashes in 2006.
1 in 8 of the cyclists with reported injuries has a brain injury.
Two-thirds of the deaths here are from traumatic brain injury.
A very high percentage of cyclists' brain injuries can be prevented by a helmet, estimated at anywhere from 45 to 88 per cent.
Direct costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $81 million each year.
Indirect costs of cyclists' injuries due to not using helmets are estimated at $2.3 billion each year.
Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
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A very high percentage of cyclists' brain injuries can be prevented by a helmet, estimated at anywhere from 45 to 88 per cent.
Written by Monash Uni Accident Prevention Centre
While the large reduction in head injuries was a clear indication of the effect of the law, the reduction among bicyclists without a head injury was shown to be at least partly a result of reduced cycling, particularly among teenagers (Finch et al. 1992). A portion of both drops may of course be attributable to the economic downturn, or the speed camera and RBT programs.
Monash Uni Accident Prevention Centre
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by :onewheeldave
I'm not going to personally comment on this, but, having read numerous helmet debates on other forums, I will mention that many who oppose helemt laws for cycles, always will point out that, whenever someone says 'my helmet saved my life when I crashed', or, 'that person who's just died from head injuries that would have been prevented if they had a helemt on', that it's speculation only.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by oc Lightning
It's not about the numbers, Dave.
I wear seatbelts. I will not move my car until all occupants are buckled in. I will not ride in a car where other people are not wearing their seatbelts.
I wear a bike helmet when I ride a bike. Even at Burning Man. I will not get on a bike without a helmet. I will not go on a ride with members of my party who are not wearing helmets.
But I will defend the right of a consenting adult to make a choice to not wear a seatbelt in his own car or to not wear a helmet when biking on his own (i.e. when I don't have to save him).
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by :Doc LightningWritten by :onewheeldave
I'm not going to personally comment on this, but, having read numerous helmet debates on other forums, I will mention that many who oppose helemt laws for cycles, always will point out that, whenever someone says 'my helmet saved my life when I crashed', or, 'that person who's just died from head injuries that would have been prevented if they had a helemt on', that it's speculation only.
The guy who I saw die a few months ago wouldn't have died if they hadn't stabbed his heart.
Of course, that's just speculation. You can never be 100% mathematically sure of this.
But if he had been wearing his helmet, I am as certain as I have ever been about anything that he would be OK today.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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It's important to point out here, for anyone not aware of how helmets work (bicycle helemts that is), is that they are designed to collapse and even,once their impact-cushioning work is done, to break apart.
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"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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