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Login/Join to ParticipatePooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
Posted:
Any educated guesses out there? Anybody?
I bet it's a _whole_ bunch...
Ravers, plus burners, plus punks , plus goths, plus circus freaks, plus travelers, plus new zealanders (not ravers, they get their own section, freaks! ), plus tribal peoples, plus clubbers, plus martial artists, there's more but this list is getting overlong... we could be a whole nation!!!
fremen, firemen, fremen... only "i" am missing
(sorry, frempersons, firepersons, frempersons just didn't have that "zing" )
Anyway, how many?
Any educated guesses out there? Anybody?
I bet it's a _whole_ bunch...
Ravers, plus burners, plus punks , plus goths, plus circus freaks, plus travelers, plus new zealanders (not ravers, they get their own section, freaks! ), plus tribal peoples, plus clubbers, plus martial artists, there's more but this list is getting overlong... we could be a whole nation!!!
fremen, firemen, fremen... only "i" am missing
(sorry, frempersons, firepersons, frempersons just didn't have that "zing" )
Anyway, how many?
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member
119 posts
Location: Newcastle, Australia
119 posts
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Posted:
depends what you call a twirler theres probabally alot of people who've had the occasional go.
but not nearly as many who do it regularly.
but my educated guess is 936,789 people
depends what you call a twirler theres probabally alot of people who've had the occasional go.
but not nearly as many who do it regularly.
but my educated guess is 936,789 people
veteran
1,325 posts
Location: San Diego, California, USA
1,325 posts
Location: San Diego, California, USA
Posted:
420,000
Just guessing. 42's the answer to everything.
Now off to slam my head into more books.
420,000
Just guessing. 42's the answer to everything.
Now off to slam my head into more books.
member
2 posts
2 posts
Posted:
those are some large guesses. i would guess around 50,000 to 150,000 respectively.
those are some large guesses. i would guess around 50,000 to 150,000 respectively.
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the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
Posted:
Do they have to concider themselves spinners? Most martial artists that I know do not because of the differentiation in style, form and movement.
Does it have to be limited to poi and staff? Bellydancers use double veils and canes. And let's actually not forget cane dancers, who can do some cool things.
Really, where are the limits. I mean if you want to get technical, a person who can flip a pencil between their fingers, a baton twirler in jr. high, I mean....really, that number shoots into the hundreds of thousands then.
But if you are talking strictly the styles you listed then I would say a double digit thousand, towards the low (under 15) end.
There are just too many variables to even really guess though.
Do they have to concider themselves spinners? Most martial artists that I know do not because of the differentiation in style, form and movement.
Does it have to be limited to poi and staff? Bellydancers use double veils and canes. And let's actually not forget cane dancers, who can do some cool things.
Really, where are the limits. I mean if you want to get technical, a person who can flip a pencil between their fingers, a baton twirler in jr. high, I mean....really, that number shoots into the hundreds of thousands then.
But if you are talking strictly the styles you listed then I would say a double digit thousand, towards the low (under 15) end.
There are just too many variables to even really guess though.
Pele
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HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
I'd define a "spinner" as someone who would not object to carrying that label. I think it's a broad enough term that nobody who twirls staff, spins poi, or performs any of the other centrifugal arts (sword, hulas, fans) would object to it.
Jugglers aren't "spinners," per se. But if we include them, then there are millions, maybe even tens or hundreds of millions.
Spinners? I once did a napkin estimate and came up with 100,000-200,000. Of course, napkin estimates are based on made-up assumptions, fuzzy calculations, magic, hand-waving, smoke and mirrors, so go figure.
I'd define a "spinner" as someone who would not object to carrying that label. I think it's a broad enough term that nobody who twirls staff, spins poi, or performs any of the other centrifugal arts (sword, hulas, fans) would object to it.
Jugglers aren't "spinners," per se. But if we include them, then there are millions, maybe even tens or hundreds of millions.
Spinners? I once did a napkin estimate and came up with 100,000-200,000. Of course, napkin estimates are based on made-up assumptions, fuzzy calculations, magic, hand-waving, smoke and mirrors, so go figure.
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228 posts
Location: Brisnyland
228 posts
Location: Brisnyland
Posted:
not nearly enough and more than enough at the same time...
did anyone catch the cirque de soliou freak.... did some mad routine combining acrobatics on floor and finish it with a layer of fuel on the floor which was set on fire with style, simlpe twirl but it was at like 12rps very kwal.. any way to answer the question i propose another.. how long is a piece of string??
hapyhunting
mythmitch
not nearly enough and more than enough at the same time...
did anyone catch the cirque de soliou freak.... did some mad routine combining acrobatics on floor and finish it with a layer of fuel on the floor which was set on fire with style, simlpe twirl but it was at like 12rps very kwal.. any way to answer the question i propose another.. how long is a piece of string??
hapyhunting
mythmitch
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Pooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
Posted:
okay, since i obviously am not alone...
let's get scientific. i mean people that would consider themselves spinners, that at least have their own equipment and practice with it once a month (or more). flags, staff, baton, chains, meteors, whips, glowstringers, clubs, rope dart, yo yo's, list how many you think are in your area, and let's start counting, and see if any obvious areas aren't represented.
i figure, in texas alone, there are about 2000? people, with all the occasional stringer rave kids added. but we are pretty extensive here... along with california and washington, i'd say among the biggest in U.S. anybody else see lots of stringing going on at raves in your area? how's northeast rave scene lookin? If i were to take a wild stab at the whole country, (i've been around a little) i would say...
10,000? 15,000?
okay, since i obviously am not alone...
let's get scientific. i mean people that would consider themselves spinners, that at least have their own equipment and practice with it once a month (or more). flags, staff, baton, chains, meteors, whips, glowstringers, clubs, rope dart, yo yo's, list how many you think are in your area, and let's start counting, and see if any obvious areas aren't represented.
i figure, in texas alone, there are about 2000? people, with all the occasional stringer rave kids added. but we are pretty extensive here... along with california and washington, i'd say among the biggest in U.S. anybody else see lots of stringing going on at raves in your area? how's northeast rave scene lookin? If i were to take a wild stab at the whole country, (i've been around a little) i would say...
10,000? 15,000?
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Posted:
I'd guess about 27.
Is there a prize if one of us is right?
I'd guess about 27.
Is there a prize if one of us is right?
Burner of Toast
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posted:
The best number I can come up with is 87 billion.
The best number I can come up with is 87 billion.
member
129 posts
Location: nodnoL
129 posts
Location: nodnoL
Posted:
12
12
erm...this is only a temp account until i get home and get the password to my usual account...sorry (itsa still the same flipping wierdo though)
Pooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
Posted:
all right, ye scurvy dogs!!!!
all right, ye scurvy dogs!!!!
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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member
83 posts
Location: UK
member
83 posts
Location: UK
Posted:
Perhaps a good place to start would be to ask Malcom how many different people have ordered from HOP since it began.
then take that number and work with it.
will
Perhaps a good place to start would be to ask Malcom how many different people have ordered from HOP since it began.
then take that number and work with it.
will
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Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
3,989 posts
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
3,989 posts
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posted:
Thats an idea...if someone could research what % of the world's population prefer to buy their goods online...
Multiply that figure by the worlds population...after multiplying it by those who would prefer to buy offline (to get non-net spinner figures).
Then find out the poverty or subsistence levels for westernized countries where spinning is popular, add that to th epercentage coz those people may make their own or borrow others.
Then add all the other 'spinning arts', such as Pele suggested (bely dancers martial artists, aussie whirly wooden things..."
Then add all policemen who walk their beat twirling a truncheon...
Then multiply the whole figure by 3, coz we are sure to have missed lots of others out.
THAT, would be my aproximate guess
Thats an idea...if someone could research what % of the world's population prefer to buy their goods online...
Multiply that figure by the worlds population...after multiplying it by those who would prefer to buy offline (to get non-net spinner figures).
Then find out the poverty or subsistence levels for westernized countries where spinning is popular, add that to th epercentage coz those people may make their own or borrow others.
Then add all the other 'spinning arts', such as Pele suggested (bely dancers martial artists, aussie whirly wooden things..."
Then add all policemen who walk their beat twirling a truncheon...
Then multiply the whole figure by 3, coz we are sure to have missed lots of others out.
THAT, would be my aproximate guess
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still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
I will take one hundred of your fire-warriors and train them. This one hundred will train the thousands that remain. When the firespice flow stops all eyes will turn to Firetwirling. The Baron and the Emperor himself will be forced to deal with us.
Firetwirling will become the center of the universe.
(yay!)
I will take one hundred of your fire-warriors and train them. This one hundred will train the thousands that remain. When the firespice flow stops all eyes will turn to Firetwirling. The Baron and the Emperor himself will be forced to deal with us.
Firetwirling will become the center of the universe.
(yay!)
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confused and abused
363 posts
Location: bristol, United Kingdom
confused and abused
363 posts
Location: bristol, United Kingdom
Posted:
there's only 6 the rest of the 'performers' are just small bit very agile snails who dress up as fire dancers and via a series of complicated mirrors and lasers to make it look like they can fire spin.
It's true my friend told me.
Tennis
there's only 6 the rest of the 'performers' are just small bit very agile snails who dress up as fire dancers and via a series of complicated mirrors and lasers to make it look like they can fire spin.
It's true my friend told me.
Tennis
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4,224 posts
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
4,224 posts
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Posted:
AM currently travelling around the world to find that out, my darling
will let you know some day but I can say that the amount of BEAUTIFUL soul amongst the fire dancers is quite impressive so far
hugs and smiles
Shine on
Cass
AM currently travelling around the world to find that out, my darling
will let you know some day but I can say that the amount of BEAUTIFUL soul amongst the fire dancers is quite impressive so far
hugs and smiles
Shine on
Cass
"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
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3 posts
Location: planet earth
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Location: planet earth
Posted:
Don't forget the vinyl spinners keepin it live on the ones and twos. Lets hear it for the DJs !!
Don't forget the vinyl spinners keepin it live on the ones and twos. Lets hear it for the DJs !!
member
299 posts
299 posts
Posted:
i thinks there might be more than we think...
just read an article about pagan customs (still upheld) in a wee part of Germany where part of me family hails from.
Here goes: as part of Fastnacht (last day of carnival before assuming fasting) the village youth prepares a huge iron wheel and stuff it with rye straw which has to be harvested with a sickle and entirely prepared with handtools.
After sunset the enire village gathers to watch the spectacle after playing music, singing songs for just this occasion, and drinking.
An eight meter long wooden stick is used to roll the wheel down a hill which has loose straw in its path so it too will burn. It is rolled about three hundred meters to then roll into a stream.
Young folk would spin prepared wooden and lit brooms in circles (yay, fire spinners !!).
It takes ten of the strongest young fellows of the village to roll the wheel down the hill.
This has been done since people can remember.
The fire marshall stands by (they also grew and prepared the special rye straw this past year)
I just love how the ole pagan customs survive unter the mantle of christianity. Helau !
i thinks there might be more than we think...
just read an article about pagan customs (still upheld) in a wee part of Germany where part of me family hails from.
Here goes: as part of Fastnacht (last day of carnival before assuming fasting) the village youth prepares a huge iron wheel and stuff it with rye straw which has to be harvested with a sickle and entirely prepared with handtools.
After sunset the enire village gathers to watch the spectacle after playing music, singing songs for just this occasion, and drinking.
An eight meter long wooden stick is used to roll the wheel down a hill which has loose straw in its path so it too will burn. It is rolled about three hundred meters to then roll into a stream.
Young folk would spin prepared wooden and lit brooms in circles (yay, fire spinners !!).
It takes ten of the strongest young fellows of the village to roll the wheel down the hill.
This has been done since people can remember.
The fire marshall stands by (they also grew and prepared the special rye straw this past year)
I just love how the ole pagan customs survive unter the mantle of christianity. Helau !
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