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ah, israel. Just another justification for my thesis that religious belief should be treated the same as any other mental illness. But that's another discussion entirely...
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Atheism as Opposition to Religion: It's perfectly possible to be both religious and an atheist. Virtually all Buddhists manage it, as do many members of other faiths. But many atheists are also secularists, and are hostile to any special treatment given to organised religion.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Contact juggling was invented by dung beetles.
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A.B. Drachmann (1922) notes:
Atheism and atheist are words formed from Greek roots and with Greek derivative endings. Nevertheless they are not Greek; their formation is not consonant with Greek usage. In Greek they said atheos and atheotes; to these the English words ungodly and ungodliness correspond rather closely. In exactly the same way as ungodly, atheos was used as an expression of severe censure and moral condemnation; this use is an old one, and the oldest that can be traced. Not till later do we find it employed to denote a certain philosophical creed. (p.5)
In English, the term atheism is the result of the adoption of the French athéisme in about 1587. The term atheist in the sense of "one who denies or disbelieves" actually predates atheism, being first attested in about 1571 (the phrase Italian atheoi is recorded as early as 1568). Atheist in the sense of practical godlessness was first attested in 1577. The French word is derived from athée, "godless, atheist", which in turn is from the Greek atheos. The words deist and theist entered English after atheism, being first attested in 1621 and 1662, respectively, with theism and deism following in 1678 and 1682, respectively.
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I don't 'believe' in evolution. It is a logical neccesity. Faith enters nowhere.
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Willful destruction of the environment is in no way part of atheism (or any religion)
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Written by: dreamWritten by: jeff(fake)are indicative of what I mean.
I don't 'believe' in evolution. It is a logical neccesity. Faith enters nowhere.
Written by: dream
Neo-darwinism's rigid belief in natural selection as the sole cause of life (which is contrary to Darwin's own beliefs... he wrote the Origin of the Species not the Origin of life - can a text be sacred if its author explicitly says it isn't... apparently so) is part of another faith based system, one built on belief in human progress, which is tied to scientific progress and empiricism, hence Boyle rather than Hobbes (getting back to Jeff's comment on Materialism).
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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I am convinced that natural selection has been the main, but not the exclusive means of modification
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Natural selection is the cause of evolution
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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Thus Buddha, whose life is traditionally accepted as between 566-483 BCE predates the Western conception of Atheism by about 2000 years.
Written by: dream
Strong Atheists belief that there is no God is just as intolerant as fundamentalist Christianity/Islam's belief that there is one god, he told us how to live in a book, and anyone who doesn't believe in our God and his book is wrong. By believing that there is no God, by definition carries the belief that anyone who believes in a God is wrong. This is where the heart of the problem lies for me. How can you preach tolerance towards other thought systems when you hold such a binary right/wrong black/white perspective on ideas which open to subjective and creative interpretation.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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But this requires flexibility and the admission that we dont understand the exact processes at present. Flexibilty which isn't present in a binarised thought system.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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Number of people burnt at the stake by Atheists: 0
Number of people enslaved by Atheists: 0
Number of Wars started with Atheistic rhetoric: 0
This gives me the impression that Atheists are more tolerant
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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Number of people burnt at the stake by Atheists: 0
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Number of people burnt at the stake by Atheists: 0
Number of people enslaved by Atheists: 0
Number of Wars started with Atheistic rhetoric: 0
This gives me the impression that Atheists are more tolerant
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How about we give "Nationalism" the dubious title of "Demi-Religion" for this discussion? Even if we don't, then that's still only, what, 1 maybe 2 wars? Compared to the history of religion?
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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It's not entirely out of the question. Genes and religion have probably interacted before. Take Judaism. Now, Jews, especially of the Azhkenazi tribe (and I'm a member of this tribe) are known to harbor a number of genetic conditions (Tay-Sach's, for example). But also there seems to be a tendency for Azhkenazi Jews to have obsessive-compulsive disorder
obviously
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I don't hear voices, nor am I prone to paranoia or suggestability
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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People bareing crosses and saying they're christians and actually christians are 2 very different things
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Slightly aside from that, Marxism was by definition internationalism, not nationalism. So 'Communism' doesn't fit your new Nationalist demi-religion.
And one or two wars were started by Nationalism??? Are you joking?
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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Written by: SethisWritten by: Boo_Bunny
People bareing crosses and saying they're christians and actually christians are 2 very different things
So you want to tell me who's a "True" Christian and who isn't? Isn't that how the whole "burning people" thing got started?
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According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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