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old hand
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old hand
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Posted:
i was wondering if anyone had tried a 5 beat butterfly weave? i tried briefly lastnight and it seemed like it would work okay. anyone thats done it, let me know. i was just sitting here wondering if it is going to work or not. if not i will try more on it tonight and let ya know...
i was wondering if anyone had tried a 5 beat butterfly weave? i tried briefly lastnight and it seemed like it would work okay. anyone thats done it, let me know. i was just sitting here wondering if it is going to work or not. if not i will try more on it tonight and let ya know...
anyone got a light?
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Location: panama
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Posted:
Eh?? i dont get what you mean dude...
think aobut it... you can do infinitive Beats in butterfly weave.. you can stay at one side of yer body as much as you want doing beats... ummm whats the idea of this?
Eh?? i dont get what you mean dude...
think aobut it... you can do infinitive Beats in butterfly weave.. you can stay at one side of yer body as much as you want doing beats... ummm whats the idea of this?
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
so which is the butterfly weave? is it teh thing that sort of looks like a butterfly is bouncing back and forth?
or is it beats of weave on one side, beats of butterfly in the middle, beats of weave on teh other?
so which is the butterfly weave? is it teh thing that sort of looks like a butterfly is bouncing back and forth?
or is it beats of weave on one side, beats of butterfly in the middle, beats of weave on teh other?
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NYC
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Posted:
I tried it and my poi said:
"Syntax Error 404"
Butterfly weave don't make no kind of sense to me either...
I tried it and my poi said:
"Syntax Error 404"
Butterfly weave don't make no kind of sense to me either...
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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old hand
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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Location: Edmonton, AB
Posted:
quote:I think i do what you're talking about. Pretty much tucking your hands as if you would do a 5-beat and bring it over to the other side and repeat?
Originally posted by pozee:
i was wondering if anyone had tried a 5 beat butterfly weave? i tried briefly lastnight and it seemed like it would work okay. anyone thats done it, let me know. i was just sitting here wondering if it is going to work or not. if not i will try more on it tonight and let ya know...
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old hand
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Location: san diego, USA
old hand
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Posted:
okay so if you are doing a butterfly, lets say a forward one on your left side, then if you just do the motions of a weave you can do the weave while they are doing the butterfly. and i tried it lastnight. the whole 5 beat under the wrist thing works with the butterfly as well. i have ot perfect it, but it does work...
okay so if you are doing a butterfly, lets say a forward one on your left side, then if you just do the motions of a weave you can do the weave while they are doing the butterfly. and i tried it lastnight. the whole 5 beat under the wrist thing works with the butterfly as well. i have ot perfect it, but it does work...
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
erm.... so, you means that it's all on the same side? like, doin a butterfly, throw in some weave beats, adn still a butterfly, all on one side?
eh?
*still confused....*
erm.... so, you means that it's all on the same side? like, doin a butterfly, throw in some weave beats, adn still a butterfly, all on one side?
eh?
*still confused....*
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old hand
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Location: san diego, USA
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Posted:
no sorry,
it is just like a weave. both sides nothing different. right hand does 2 circles on the left side of the body and 1 circle on the right, left hand does 2 on the right and 1 on the left. the exact same concept as the regular weave, but instead of the poi moving in the same direction like a regular weave, your poi are moving opposite, like in a butterfly. do a buitterfly on one side of your body, then do a weave
no sorry,
it is just like a weave. both sides nothing different. right hand does 2 circles on the left side of the body and 1 circle on the right, left hand does 2 on the right and 1 on the left. the exact same concept as the regular weave, but instead of the poi moving in the same direction like a regular weave, your poi are moving opposite, like in a butterfly. do a buitterfly on one side of your body, then do a weave
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
so it'd go...left side butterfly... right side weave... etc... etc... etc... ??
or vice versa??
so it'd go...left side butterfly... right side weave... etc... etc... etc... ??
or vice versa??
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old hand
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Posted:
kind of, it starts out as a butterfly but then you go into a weave and it is a continuous weave. it never really stops on one side for a regular butterfly. it incorporates both thread the needles. i wish i couold send you a video of it that would make it a lot easier...
kind of, it starts out as a butterfly but then you go into a weave and it is a continuous weave. it never really stops on one side for a regular butterfly. it incorporates both thread the needles. i wish i couold send you a video of it that would make it a lot easier...
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Location: panama
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Posted:
Pozze i still dont get it... i mean what skillz you need for it i mean... if you can do a butterfly weave i could do errr even 10 beats:p
5 circles on my left side and 5 circles on my right side i mean you can do as much as beat you want with the butterfly weave i guess 3 beats does take more skillz cause you gotta cross the pois over yer body really fast dunno.
Whats the idea?
if im not getting it right well ENLIGHT me
Pozze i still dont get it... i mean what skillz you need for it i mean... if you can do a butterfly weave i could do errr even 10 beats:p
5 circles on my left side and 5 circles on my right side i mean you can do as much as beat you want with the butterfly weave i guess 3 beats does take more skillz cause you gotta cross the pois over yer body really fast dunno.
Whats the idea?
if im not getting it right well ENLIGHT me
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
video...pluh-leeeze.....???
Kinudin might be able to send it to me, or Sickpuppy, or try me urself (certian peeps can't send to me, dunno why) AIM ..Phoenix M318.. MSN... "spiffylitlechair@hotmail.com" none of my emails will acept video's tho...
video...pluh-leeeze.....???
Kinudin might be able to send it to me, or Sickpuppy, or try me urself (certian peeps can't send to me, dunno why) AIM ..Phoenix M318.. MSN... "spiffylitlechair@hotmail.com" none of my emails will acept video's tho...
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old hand
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Posted:
nightshade, its the whole twisting the wrist thing is what i am talking about. going back to the other side with the opposite hand.
kyrian, connecticut huh? i cant send video online, too computer illeterate...
nightshade, its the whole twisting the wrist thing is what i am talking about. going back to the other side with the opposite hand.
kyrian, connecticut huh? i cant send video online, too computer illeterate...
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Location: panama
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Posted:
I will need to look a video i dont get it...
yes when im doing the butterfly weave i get other hand to the other side of my body :/
I will need to look a video i dont get it...
yes when im doing the butterfly weave i get other hand to the other side of my body :/
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Posted:
I've just started the bf weave and I tryed the 5 bt last night . I understand what you meen pozee, But I couldn't pull it off last night, the wrist movements look sweet doin the bf weave it feels really good, I've not seen any body doin it yet
oopps boss
Spike
I've just started the bf weave and I tryed the 5 bt last night . I understand what you meen pozee, But I couldn't pull it off last night, the wrist movements look sweet doin the bf weave it feels really good, I've not seen any body doin it yet
oopps boss
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
But you see Kinudin sometimes.... he can put videos online !!!!!!!!!
But you see Kinudin sometimes.... he can put videos online !!!!!!!!!
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old hand
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Posted:
i did not know that kyrian. i will have to look him up and try and do that. thanks for the info.
i did not know that kyrian. i will have to look him up and try and do that. thanks for the info.
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Posted:
Do you mean a butterfly crossing the body with the wrists crossed? That is, wrists moving from left to right, right hand leading but crossed over the top of the left wrist?
J
Do you mean a butterfly crossing the body with the wrists crossed? That is, wrists moving from left to right, right hand leading but crossed over the top of the left wrist?
J
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old hand
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Posted:
okay, lets brake the BF weave down shotgun style.
start out with a butterfly on the left side of the body. left hand goes to the right side of the body over the right hand for a beat, then the right hand follows under to the right side for 1 beat. the right hand immediatley goes back to the left side over the right hand and at the same time the left hand does its second beat on the right side. when the right hand gets to the left side, immediateyl the left hand goes underneath to the left side for a beat and then back over the right hand to the right side. that is the regular BF weave.
no with the 5 beat, instead of the right hand going back to the right side first, the left hand does but your arm goes under the left arm but you bend your wrist so that the poi goes over the left arm.
i know this is hard to explain. i will try and get it onto some kind of video with kinudins help...
okay, lets brake the BF weave down shotgun style.
start out with a butterfly on the left side of the body. left hand goes to the right side of the body over the right hand for a beat, then the right hand follows under to the right side for 1 beat. the right hand immediatley goes back to the left side over the right hand and at the same time the left hand does its second beat on the right side. when the right hand gets to the left side, immediateyl the left hand goes underneath to the left side for a beat and then back over the right hand to the right side. that is the regular BF weave.
no with the 5 beat, instead of the right hand going back to the right side first, the left hand does but your arm goes under the left arm but you bend your wrist so that the poi goes over the left arm.
i know this is hard to explain. i will try and get it onto some kind of video with kinudins help...
anyone got a light?
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old hand
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Posted:
maybe phunky would like to have a go at it. i think he might be able to do the video stuff pretty easily...
maybe phunky would like to have a go at it. i think he might be able to do the video stuff pretty easily...
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Location: York, England
Posted:
so it's butterfly's going back and forth but you switch which hand is on top? only that means also you have to put a hand on top... or are they crossed even? am i getting anywhere?
so it's butterfly's going back and forth but you switch which hand is on top? only that means also you have to put a hand on top... or are they crossed even? am i getting anywhere?
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old hand
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Posted:
okay, try this and it should help. put your hands above each other on your left side like you are doing a butterfly. now take your left hand and cross it to the right side over your right hand. now your arms make an X. now take your right arm and pull it under your left arm over to the right sid eand immediatley move it back to the left side above your left arm. and then you have an X again. left hand to left side underneath right arm and immediately back to right side above your right arm. back and forth, that is the butterfly weave.
for the 5 beat, your left hand will go to the left side first and your right hand will go to the right side first. but you will twist your wrists like a 5 beat weave.
any better?
okay, try this and it should help. put your hands above each other on your left side like you are doing a butterfly. now take your left hand and cross it to the right side over your right hand. now your arms make an X. now take your right arm and pull it under your left arm over to the right sid eand immediatley move it back to the left side above your left arm. and then you have an X again. left hand to left side underneath right arm and immediately back to right side above your right arm. back and forth, that is the butterfly weave.
for the 5 beat, your left hand will go to the left side first and your right hand will go to the right side first. but you will twist your wrists like a 5 beat weave.
any better?
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
i think i understand....
*waits impatiently for rain to clear up so she can try it*
i think i understand....
*waits impatiently for rain to clear up so she can try it*
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Posted:
god kyrian, youve seen both me and todd do it...
its the thing we all started yelling about who could do it first, and how its really just an alternate cross over turned to the side, and then todd started spinning in circles and whacked himself in the jumblies...
yeah, that was a 3 beat butterfly weave, i havent tried a 5 beat yet, but it should work
god kyrian, youve seen both me and todd do it...
its the thing we all started yelling about who could do it first, and how its really just an alternate cross over turned to the side, and then todd started spinning in circles and whacked himself in the jumblies...
yeah, that was a 3 beat butterfly weave, i havent tried a 5 beat yet, but it should work
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
i remember that quite clearly. and i asked one of you too show me how to do it and then you start to and then you go off on some yarn about sumtin else and ignore me.....
to give todd credit he did try to show me after you left, and he did promise that i had the idea right i just sort of needed to practice. and i actually think i got it... sort of... except... i switch to same time when i go to the sides...
is this wrong i take it?
i'm supposed to stay split time all da time?
i remember that quite clearly. and i asked one of you too show me how to do it and then you start to and then you go off on some yarn about sumtin else and ignore me.....
to give todd credit he did try to show me after you left, and he did promise that i had the idea right i just sort of needed to practice. and i actually think i got it... sort of... except... i switch to same time when i go to the sides...
is this wrong i take it?
i'm supposed to stay split time all da time?
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Dreamer
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Posted:
but then i clearly remember todd saying to me that i would want to go into a weave and that was ok i just shouldn't and taht it was especially bad for him because he was trying to learn to do a butterfly weave... so either you guys have extraneous terminology again or... i don't know... you better come back and straighten my head out at some point.... or perhaps sunday if i see you...
but then i clearly remember todd saying to me that i would want to go into a weave and that was ok i just shouldn't and taht it was especially bad for him because he was trying to learn to do a butterfly weave... so either you guys have extraneous terminology again or... i don't know... you better come back and straighten my head out at some point.... or perhaps sunday if i see you...
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Dreamer
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Posted:
i think i have a two-beat...yayyyyyy!!
if not, it at least looks cool
i think i have a two-beat...yayyyyyy!!
if not, it at least looks cool
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poo-bah
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Location: Austin TX USA
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Posted:
OK, I think I understand.
It's misleading to call this a "butterfly weave"--it's more like a "thread-the-needle weave" if anything.
And the wrist-twisting part: I understand how that works, but that's just making it more difficult for yourself as, I don't know, a test of your own flexibility. No reason not to use a normal TTN over-under motion, which can be repeated indefinitely.
OK, I think I understand.
It's misleading to call this a "butterfly weave"--it's more like a "thread-the-needle weave" if anything.
And the wrist-twisting part: I understand how that works, but that's just making it more difficult for yourself as, I don't know, a test of your own flexibility. No reason not to use a normal TTN over-under motion, which can be repeated indefinitely.
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old hand
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Location: san diego, USA
old hand
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Posted:
very true adam, it does not look much better, especially with the tweaking of the wrist, but it does work and i had to share it...
very true adam, it does not look much better, especially with the tweaking of the wrist, but it does work and i had to share it...
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Dreamer
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Location: York, England
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Posted:
it is supposed to be in split time.... right?
it is supposed to be in split time.... right?
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Posted:
I cracked the 5bt this morning . You can do it split time and in time .
You have to use tnt movements to switch which hand is on top,so you get the weave movements.by adding the 5 beat weave movements to the bf weave you get a nice flowing move that really takes alot of thinking about.
If you get the 3bt your hands should be doin the over ,under ,out movements of the weave,(i've not managed to do this split time yet??? ???)
Now adding the 5bt movements in. if you starton the right side doin a reversee bf, tnt and at the same time wrap your left wrist around the right and take the whole lot to the left side the first beat will be done with the left poi furthest away from you, then unwrap your arms using tnt.
then as the poi reach the top of there swing wrap the right wrist in a 5bt style and pull it all to the right and carry on from there.
This might be complete bollocks but this is how I understand it at the moment,
hope this makes seense to somone, if not I'll try and explain a bit better.
early morning Cuddles
Spike
I cracked the 5bt this morning . You can do it split time and in time .
You have to use tnt movements to switch which hand is on top,so you get the weave movements.by adding the 5 beat weave movements to the bf weave you get a nice flowing move that really takes alot of thinking about.
If you get the 3bt your hands should be doin the over ,under ,out movements of the weave,(i've not managed to do this split time yet??? ???)
Now adding the 5bt movements in. if you starton the right side doin a reversee bf, tnt and at the same time wrap your left wrist around the right and take the whole lot to the left side the first beat will be done with the left poi furthest away from you, then unwrap your arms using tnt.
then as the poi reach the top of there swing wrap the right wrist in a 5bt style and pull it all to the right and carry on from there.
This might be complete bollocks but this is how I understand it at the moment,
hope this makes seense to somone, if not I'll try and explain a bit better.
early morning Cuddles
Spike
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