Do You Think We'll Ever Run Out of New Moves?

different terminology, same idea. with a sphere, the surrounding unknown expands even more rapidly. d:

Not if we're limited to expanding a circle on the surface of a sphere, was more my point. The circumference of darkness would increase for a while, hit a maximum point, and then shrink again

in that case you are very correct. however we live in three dimensional infinite space, not two dimensional space bounded on a sphere. so again, .

Last I heard the jury was still out on the structure of space-time, so... let's see, is there an emoticon more immature than the tongue one... Yes. Yes there is.

you win this round. that emoticon is amazing.

Haha, you have come across someone who aspires to be a theoretical physicist. Yes, a fire-spinning physicist. We do not, as of current accepted theory, live in an infinite 3-dimensional universe. Our universe is, I was never sure about the number, 3 or 4 dimensions. I think it's 3 actually, I think they just kinda stuck time in those 3. And our universe is part of an 11 dimensional multiverse composed of theoretical "membranes" that can be many different multidimensional shapes, that float around in the infinite multiverse. And these membranes do have a surface covered in waves, and it is proposed that the Big bang came about from a collision of two membranes, and the non-uniformity came about because of the many randomly-spaced collisions of the wavy surface.

Physics is a weird world my friend. Filled with things that completely defy common sense. Such as the observed fact the electrons can and very often are in more than one place at one time. That one always screws with people's heads.

And that's what you get for talking physics around me

don't let it inflate your head.
If we want to continue this discussion we should start a new thread 'cause we are starting to go off on a tangent. If you start it I will come join you.

haha, but I would end up wasting all my free time. If someone starts it though, I won't be able to help myself.

I know a lot about this topic.

The poi are not limited, we are

whats a move anyway?

I'ts one word in body language.

i hold the belief that poi is most definitely not something that is going to come to a end anytime soon. it is something that can be percieved as limited as we it to make it .
there are so many things that DyamiTK said are right on. the only thing is i think there is need for a little bit of a different approach to what a move or pattern is. first off i think the idea of patterns is a completely artificial concept( one could argue all of these are and they'd be right but this i kinda believe is more so if that makes any sense). lets take for example the pattern of a weave. if you look at the pattern involved in a weave it seems very much to be a finite pattern. but i feel it is safe to say that no one can do a perfect weave. thats because the way are bodys work we are constantly self correcting and correcting from those corrections and so on. so dispit us going by a set pattern for a weave there will always be those slight corrections that make it different. this becomes even more prominent when your talking about transitions and more advanced spinning because instead of just going by a set pattern you have to react to the poi themselves(this becomes particularly important when your working with plane bending and such).
so i believe that this is true in all of spinning and i belief what alien jon said does a good job at supporting this. when there is no energy in the system your body does not have to accommodate at all for the poi so there are infinite possibility( i guess the real only limitation is that added by gravity saying the head cant come upwards towards the hand until the proper energy had been added(dropping the hand is different)) . but as you are spinning you may have to accommodate to the energy in the poi at the which does add immediate limitation but by keeping the head in a low energy state you can accommodate the energy from the poi and from there bring it to where ever we want it. however that accommodation still does act as a limiting factor but it reduces the limitation on the logic that the less energy/momentum you add in the less limitations you have and when you use things such as isolations the limitations on the poi head is reduced while the energy/momentum is switched to the hand( which is not as bounded by the more energy more limitation rule.) so by using point isolations you are able to achieve a zero energy state in the poi while being able to under go a infinite amount of variation. so by dropping through the various levels of isolation you are able to do a infinite amount of variation.
not that this is needed to prove there is infinite variation in poi i still hold that due to the bio feedback even the most basic moves consist of infinite variation while being identified the same. even as far as moves go there can always be another iteration applied to a move and with no defined period saying poi is limited is just like saying the coke curve is a measurable length. the bounds are where you imagine them because we are dealing with a 4d fractals( i dont see much application of the 11d of of m theory because for the most part the whole big thing about the quantum world and what boggles all the physicists is the rules of the two worlds are very much different. however i liked all the talk about m theory and its application to poi if you guys do make a thread i would deff be interested.)
peace and love and happy spinning!!!