The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread

WOOT!

Flashed a 7b shower! Well, sort of... Started with 4 in the right hand and 3 in the left, ended up the same. Guess to get a proper flash I'd have to start with 1 in the right and 6 in the left.

Still pleased though

Awesome work.

very nice! i remember the one time i flashed a seven ball cascade. was amazing.

I believe Gatto starts (or he used to, back in 1989) his 6 ball shower with 5 in one hand, 1 in the other, and throwing the one straight up to the same hand before going into the pattern. multiplexes do me fine on the 6 ball shower, never tried a 7 ball shower (which is just stupid)

81475 is a good siteswap to learn, if you fancy a challenge.

Actually, stating with 1 ball in the 'dominant' hand and the rest in the other hand sounds like a sensible way to flash a shower pattern, since each '1' is actually thrown.

Can I get some entry/exit throws on that 81475?

Nevermind, (6)75814(4) right?

Edit: I reckon 66814 is probably easier so I might give that a go first.

So I've been thinking about putting together a routine of sorts. Not necessarily anything artistic or stage worthy, basically just some sequences of moves that I can nail 98.5% of the time - something to practice and feel good about accomplishing with minimal drops.

But I'm having a tough time limiting myself. Whenever I start a practice session with the intention of creating an achievable and repeatable sequence I end up going off on tangents and it becomes just like a normal practice session - always trying to stretch my limits instead of stringing together what I already know.

I think I'm going to try just writing down some mid-length sequences of moves and sticking to them letter for letter when I practice. Maybe I'll post some of them up when I get around to it.

Soooo, suggestions, personal experiences with formulating a routine/ performable sequence of tricks, ideas, anything at all?

Edit: Actually, I'll post up some of the stuff I did manage to get down on paper one session and maybe you guys can have a play around with it like fridge magnets or another metaphor for rearranging something.

Okay, here's just what I have scrawled in my notebook:

83382233 pirouette

5 cascade - 3up pirouette - 5 cascade - btb catch finish

6 ball multiplex run.
[33] -> [44x] -> (4,4)([44],[44],) <-> (6,6)
[33] -> [54] -> 44[44][44] <-> 6

7 ball triplexes -> 1 high into 7 cascade

5 ball splits (-> 2up pirouette ->) 1 high 2 low into (6x,4)* -> (8x,4)(4,4) or synch half shower.

4 ball shower run.
high low
2up pass
2up pirouette
connected both sides showers + extended box
shower while turning in a circle?
other synch tricks - (6,4x)(2x,4)* with 2up pirou inserts.

Yeaaah, I couldn't really write up all the connections I made because I wrote some of them as weird little flow charts. Also, most of it is slightly too demanding to be running super comfortably (y'see I get carried away).

I also play a lot with 4 and 5 ball ground state siteswaps and some excited 4 ball swaps. That session I probably did a lot of 645, 744, 8444, 94444, 97531, 64, 77731 etc. and trying to chain some of them together. Similarly with 4 ball swaps.

As for three ball stuff I can't really do anything especially difficult or out of the ordinary so any three ball routine I put together would most likely look a bit bland, although I have been working a little bit on penguin catches and odd little stalls and behind-the-back passes and things so maybe I'll get creative and cook something up.

So, yah, advices/ideas/general input would be muchly appreciated.

None from me, still learning stuff.

Have been playing with multiplex throws, after seeing a claymotion vid which looked like it was interesting.

Shower is getting there, slowly. Probably my right hand would be easier, but am working on the LH version first.

Yes!! finaly!! I can do an airwrap!!
Trying to do a fountain now doesn't look to hard:) Maybe I spoke to soon:)

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Um.... This is the juggling section.

Try the beginner's section for the poi version of this thread (it is stickied).

Well done though. I remember airwraps and hyperloops giving me hell when I first learned them.

9 (18) catches of (6x4)(4x6) woo!

I threw something under club swinging, that I think could fit here, well, actually, it's not a move learnt yet, it's a move in the process of being processed... *shrug* 3-beat weave with clubs while juggling? I cannot figure it out, I just end up doing take outs or like reverse chops. Any ideas? Haven't seen a tutorial for it.

I can do a 3 beat weave with poi whilst juggling 3 balls. It's done with mikes mess with a high under throw, dunno if that will translate to what you're trying to do.

It's kinda like.... say.... Doing a 3 beat (lr at least it looks like one to me) with three clubs, and alternately throwing one into the air to continue the beat with the other two...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyErQJlTJd8 at about 2 minutes this fellow does it.

Mynci: That sounds like fun to work out....

Just looks like mikes mess with clubs, quite hard to keep clubs straight but easy with balls

Aston I suggested learning 3 ball cascade with poi first you can also do 3 ball showers and 4 ball fountain but that is really hard.

The timing with the cascade seems odd....

I was watching a friend try something similar the other day.

Mikes mess eh? Off to learn that, never even heard of it until now.... Some juggler I am eh? =)

It's just underarm 522 with arm waggles (rubenstein's revenge minus the 33).

Aston - The Cascade timing for the poi is a reverse split time butterfly. it will also depend upon the poi you use as the weight and length will effect the speed of rotation and hand movement. you want medium length a quite low weight, if too heavy the spin will move your hands too much, as the speed of the hand rotation will effect the height of the throw and thus the timing of the catch, that's why the weave is so hard and the shower REALLY tricky as you are doing 2 different height throws using the same hand movements.

You can practice the weave with mikes mess using 2 balls throwing under the arm and catching with the same hand as a way to give the effect without the precision (like a 2 beat weave looks right in a photo but is not a proper 3 beat) although the timing of the catch is always a little wrong it is easier.

Cool. Will play with it. Sounds like fun.