Domestic Aid, an honest assessment

re. health care, it is universal kinda. The doctors at a practice (and at hospitals) send their bill to the gov. to pay. At some places you are asked to pay a 'gap' at the doctors and you recieve that money back by medicare.. That is for just normal services. Things like xrays and stuff still cost, but are discounted by medicare.

Our medications cost a flat rate if they are on the magic list of meds, around $21 (but im not too sure, its been ages since Ive been to a doctors) but if you have a healthcare card that cost of prescription medicine drops to like $5.

The govnt, here is trying desperatly to shift our health care towards privatisation. My friend has been on the waiting list for ear surgery for 9 years. If he had private health cover he would have had surgury already.

The good doctors dont want to work for the public service because it pays less, so the govt. allows them to run private clinics out of their office and using public facilities. But this means that doctors who are on the public list rarely make time to actually see their public patients.


With welfare for students. Most people I study with arnt on it because since they are under 25 they are still classified as dependant on parents. So they get no payments. With a system that accounts for students to have this welfare, to not have it is to struggle.

And why I have never bothered with welfare and was glad I had supportive parents who helped me with rent.

Isn't the purpose of a government to govern rather than to serve the public?

"the natural order of things"... a quite polarizing expression innit? Sure, you got no home - be homeless then. No job, no food, no future... either die quickly or pick it up along "the natural order of things" and get yourself a blade/ gun and take what is yours to take from those who got aplenty.

"Victimless crimes" ... like credit crunch, global financial crisis? or more like a b***job in the car or a spliff on the beach? Might end up having to revise certain basic values of society then...

However, if people believe that money is 'stolen' from them and given to less fortunate (as for "aid" or "national healthcare"), then clearly they are living on or coming from a different planet than my own. Can't side you that private organizations manage their funds better than those run by governing bodies... should therefore be no more charity be given? I don't think so.

Charity and humanitarian aid (domestic/ international) are signposts for whether people still do live below animal or have evolved to human level. Even animals do help each others out.



[discl.: The above is my opinion only - you may dis/agree as it pleases you. )

The vid said more than words can do.

FireTom, I can see where you're coming from completely, but let me clarify the technicalities to my views and how I've come to my conclusions before it all gets confusing

I think government is honesty too big to be effective as a governing body or to serve the public as a governing body. With so many cooks in the kitchen it's no wonder recipes get all screwed up and orders jumbled.

As usual I stand squarely in the middle on victimless crime, considering that in the situations where there honestly is a victim something should be done and with other circumstances I truly believe in "no harm, no foul". I'm referring to the "in every sense of the word- Victimless" when I use the term (as in there is no way anyone else got hurt).

The people who truly believe they are being stolen from in my country (which is the half of my country that always makes me embarrassed to be an American ie "those Fox News Channel crazy people") have a right to complain and I think the money taken from them has bad karma in it. My definition of charity (wether it be from the government or privately) should be a choice and if the people who truly do care, but don't want it to be mandatory (which is where I stand because technically you are paying twice), would be more than happy to [insert: give/help/volunteer/make it their profession right here] and feel more call to urgency making a more well rounded, productive system with good karma than it is now.

Maybe I'm just a good-natured, optimistic type of person, but I think if things were gone about a different way and looked at in a different perspective we might have a very good change for society (this is coming out of the mouth of a person who thinks absurdism and antisociety are very good approaches to world peace along with lassez-faire politics) on a large scale that would manifest with a reasonable amount of patience.

Lastly I think that video could have been avoided from being made if humans were responsible for their pets and held a decent degree of accountability for keeping them safe and having them spayed and neutered, I can't even begin to discuss how sickened I am for people who can't take care of themselves having children or adopting pets. I don't see how we cannot prevent atrocities like that or how that is somehow inspirational, to me it's a sad display of gross negligence. However you have to look at a huge picture to see it from that perspective and it all comes down to very basic levels of self responsibility that can make a huge impact on the welfare of others.

Much thanks as well to Woodland Apple and Hamamelis for clarification on those two healthcare systems as I think some political people opposed to reform here have twisted everything around to derail our own reform.

[edited for clarity]

Karma is the law of re/action. Not sure where you're going with the "bad karma" here. There is "bad and good Karma" - like the balance of a bank account. Of course everybody is happy to cash in a check and withdraw money but always a little reluctant to pay their dues... And this is exactly where it comes to: if these people who need help wouldn't have a positive balance - according to the theory of Karma - they would not receive anything. On the other side those people who's money is taken to help are balancing their negative Karma...

And taxing citizens is within the rights of any government, there is no bad karma generated, neither for the government nor the homeless people. If tax money is used to aid (human) suffering, good karma is created.

This may or may not balance the bad karma generated by spending it on the creation of unnecessary suffering (like military actions for example).

Everybody has the right to complain - and it might be the easiest of all jobs - unless done "right" ...

Personally I don't identify international aid or social welfare as being "charity"... but maybe that's just me. Charity as such is not mandatory - at least last time I checked, nobody forced donations on the general public... As stated before: "charity" (imo) equal "social welfare"... Charity is giving something away, based on free will and generosity.

[on a sidenote]I would guess that where the above video was shot, the idea of "having pets" is a very different one to our understanding.... however I just wanted to point out that we can live together and help each others out of misery...

One more thought to ponder: One can only give what they got... and some can never have enough and if one doesn't feel happy sharing - don't. It's far better to be happy... at least one will share a smile and positive attitude.