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#899967 - 25/11/09 01:25 AM Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Hello, I'm new here, so sorry if I did something wrong smile.

I have phosphorescent string poi and I would like something more entertaining and better quality. I was thinking about Multi-Color LED Glow Balls and a Pair of ColeCord cords with swivels and quicklinks or Jailhouse LED Glow Sock Poi or Pair of Multi-Color LED Glow Sock Poi. I need something cheap, bot not low quality.

I was thinking about Colecord. Is it really better than other cords? And does the cord if I buy it alone differ? Which pois glow brighter? Which would be more entertaining for perormances? And which would be better for learning? And I really want to learn hyperloops and orbitals. Which should I choose? Or even a cheaper way - buying all the parts separately and assembling myself ( for the string poi)?

Thank you, Ninla.


Edited by Ninla (25/11/09 03:07 AM)

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#900000 - 25/11/09 09:24 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
colecord is awesome. i don't like the socks that are used for the jailhouse poi. I used them like twice and then threw the glow poi on my chains and never used the socks again. Colecords is my favorite thing to spin with. Jailhouse use the same poi as the glow poi you'd put on your colecords, just in a shitty sock. Orbitals are buttery on colecord.

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#900055 - 26/11/09 12:32 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Thank you for your answer.

I was wondering why on the colecord set the swivels are on the end of cord (not near the handle)? And on the picture the cord seems round, but if you buy it separately it's flat?

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#900066 - 26/11/09 01:23 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
JayKitty Offline
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Registered: 07/11/04
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Get the parts yourself and link up your colecord near the handles. Add swivles on the ends if you shorten your poi and take the top swivels out of the equation a lot. Colecord is amazing. You can really tell the difference. Colecord is colecord. If you get it on it's own or if you have the lovley folks at HoP do it for you. As for something awesomely glowy to swing on the end of your colecord? Ever think about flowlights? They aren't balls, but they are the best thing I've spun in my 6 years. And the fact that they run on aaa batteries instead of those crazy disk things is great.
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#900072 - 26/11/09 03:14 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: JayKitty]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Thank you,

English is not my mother language and I can't understand this sentence - "Add swivels on the ends if you shorten your poi and take the top swivels out of the equation a lot." smile
Unfortunately, flowlights are too expensive for me frown
Can you buy those disk batteries at any store?

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#900073 - 26/11/09 03:54 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
I would buy the colecord and glow component by themselves, and buy ball bearing swivels from a marine supply company (size 6 should be fine). You could buy HOP's swivels, but size 10 is really big. People think my size 8 swivels are huge. I like to have two swivels on each poi, but I imagine you could just have them by the handles and you wouldn't miss the swivels by the heads very much.

I have some on the way, so I can confirm this in a few days, but I'm pretty sure colecord is always round, even when bought by itself.
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#900076 - 26/11/09 04:40 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Oh, yeah they're all round smile It just looked flat on the picture.

Thank you, I will consider that.

What do you think about Pair of Pro Series handles? It has swivels attached to them.


Edited by Ninla (26/11/09 04:52 AM)

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#900079 - 26/11/09 05:19 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I haven't used those ones personally, but the design is mostly the same as my handles. For glow poi they should be more than good enough. Depending on the leather they use, they should also transition over to fire poi nicely.

I would almost say they'd be too good for glow poi, but as someone who's been given blisters by almost every pair of handles she's used, I would say not to skimp on the handles. Comfortable spinning is more fun.
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#900084 - 26/11/09 06:16 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Thank you,

blisters would ruin the joy of new pois smile Also they're not very expensive, 'cause they have swivels on them. A Pair of D-ring Double Loop Nylon Handles with swivels would cost 6.08 USD and a Pair of Pro Series handles are 7.67 USD. Seems quite fair to me. And doesn't that D-ring make poi loose stability? And those faux suede handles seem to be really comfy, unlike the nylon ones.

But is it easy to tie all the parts together? Is there a risk of something flying away while spining? smile

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#900093 - 26/11/09 06:43 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Colecord was originally a material for skating shoelaces, so knots should hold pretty well. I would use something like a palomar knot on each end, working out some of the leftover slack so you don't lose too much of the end. Simpler knots would probably work too, though.
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#900098 - 26/11/09 07:16 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Thank you for the information.

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#900107 - 26/11/09 07:59 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
I like the colecords near the heads rather than the handles. you'd think it'd be a problem but it's not. the heads go spinning a lot so if you're wrapped up you need the swivel action. I do orbitals more than anyone and i don't have a problem with the lack of swivel near the handle.

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#900164 - 27/11/09 12:27 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Hmmm... So maybe I should add two swivels on each poi?

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#900243 - 28/11/09 09:29 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
I really don't think it matters. Like I said I don't have swivels at the handles and I do orbitals constantly.

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#900244 - 28/11/09 09:56 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
But if I'm going to buy those Pro Series handles, they come with swivels already. Should I add to the ends?

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#900260 - 28/11/09 02:36 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
I have the pro handles, you dont need them for orbitals, but they make it a lot easier and you can hold them until they stop spinning which can be like 30 seconds of you get it good. I have it like a giant double loop of Colecord for my poi. It's nice on your hands when you go short for a long time, and I think it might give better friction for orbitals, I used excactly 3 ft and I didn't even have to trim it ^^ I suggest buying the parts separately because the you'll never use the nylon crap it comes with. Just buy the head, handles, and cord separately, I wish I did and saved myself some $$


Edited by SpinnerofDetroit (28/11/09 02:39 PM)
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#900262 - 28/11/09 02:54 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
Originally Posted By: Ninla
But if I'm going to buy those Pro Series handles, they come with swivels already. Should I add to the ends?


pro handles? overkill i think.

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#900428 - 01/12/09 10:47 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Hmmm... But they're not that expensive. So, why not better?

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#900469 - 02/12/09 09:20 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
I guess so. I just get the nylon with glow. I guess you can just move them to fire poi if you want later.

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#900489 - 02/12/09 06:08 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Lunaki Offline
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Registered: 10/11/09
Loc: Oklahoma
Since you are used to poi on strings you would probably like the strings better than sock poi.
I would suggest for you colecord w/ quicklinks and handles with the multi-color glowballs.
If you want to do fire poi someday then you should choose chains instead, but if you don't plan on doing fire then go for the colecord.

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#900496 - 02/12/09 07:15 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lunaki]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
I disagree. I think the biggest change is the change in proportion from chain weight to head weight. Having chains with glow and then adding the fire heads will be kind of shocking and things won't work the same where as colecord with glow heads to chain with fire heads the moves will be harder but they won't be as different.

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#900513 - 03/12/09 01:44 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
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Registered: 12/09/09
Loc: The netherlands
But if you use chains then you can get used to the feel of chains with orbitals and stuff (pure guessing, I can't do any of that stuff xD)

Or what you could do is ord both a set of chains and a set of colecord tongue
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#900580 - 04/12/09 12:26 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: OuchStaff]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Well, I'm not planing to switch to fire poi soon smile

I guess I'm going with the pro handles and colecord. So, the last question - should I add swivels to the ends (near the heads) also?

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#900602 - 04/12/09 04:43 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
That's the only place you need them, near the ends. Don't make me make a video!

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#900684 - 05/12/09 10:11 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Oh, I just got my colecord. It's very nice, very subtle. You've probably already made your purchase by now, but if you got the colecord I think you made a pretty good decision. Though I still think my chains are more fun.
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#900694 - 06/12/09 04:35 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
I haven't bought them yet. I'm getting them not for Christmas, but for my birthday, on the 5th of January.

Lye, I don't think you understand me... I'm going to buy pros series handles. They already have swivels attached to them. So there are swivels near the handles. The question is - do I need to add extra swivels to ends?
Can you understand me now? smile

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#900712 - 06/12/09 03:24 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
Originally Posted By: Ninla
I haven't bought them yet. I'm getting them not for Christmas, but for my birthday, on the 5th of January.

Lye, I don't think you understand me... I'm going to buy pros series handles. They already have swivels attached to them. So there are swivels near the handles. The question is - do I need to add extra swivels to ends?
Can you understand me now? smile


wut

yes by the head is the only place you really need swivels with colecords imho

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#900713 - 06/12/09 03:24 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lye]
Lye Offline
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Registered: 24/09/09
i'm not very h am i

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#901119 - 13/12/09 12:40 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lunaki]
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Registered: 05/09/09
Loc: Tacoma, Washington
I personally love the socks. I feel like they make various hyperloops, isolations, stalls, and more easier. I currently have rainbow poiballs in some Aurora sock (I know there dark hard to see) But I have new multi-function poiballs on the way with lots of socks. Only problem is the socks take damage from being used but there cheap. Also the hook on the poiball for cords can ruin your sock. I cut those off because i have no use for cord. In the future when its affordable i plan on investing in Oggs, colecord, swivels the whole deal.
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#901140 - 13/12/09 10:09 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Smurf24029]
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Socks definitely are the cheap option, and while I don't find them to help super much with hyperloops, they are pretty sweet for isolations. Socks also present more of a visual profile aside from the lights. I suppose it depends what you want people to see when you spin. I like the paths traced by the heads, but there are some styles where seeing the whole length of poi looks better. You could always tack some empty socks onto the same order for a pretty small increase in price.
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#901304 - 16/12/09 05:23 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
Ninla Offline
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Registered: 25/11/09
Loc: Lithuania
Thank you for the replies.

I'll think about socks.

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#901792 - 23/12/09 02:29 AM glowpoi question [Re: Ninla]
Teamo Offline
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Loc: Finland
Even though this is kind of a question of its own, I decided not to make a new thread about it because the topic is probably all too common, and it revolvs a lot around the things said in this thread aswell. So.. smile :

I'm thinking about what to get for my first glowing poi, and I'm just down to deciding between Oggz and Flowlights. I've already semi-decided to get the Pro Handles with the swiwels, plus colecord for string.. So it's only down to the heads now. Oggz are marginally cheaper (mainly because with Flowlights I'll have to get the crystal cases and flowmass).. They also go through the whole spectrum of colors, where as with Flowlights I'll be stuck with the colors I choose. But I also hear that Oggz break too easily(they seem so comfortably soft though..)? Are there any other pros/cons to Flowlights/Oggz that I might not be aware of?
And speaking of colors, if I end up getting Flowlights, it would probably be wise to get 2 different colors (or would it?). Could somebody tell me from experience (or have a video) about which combinations look best when spinning?
And just as a sidenote about swiwel placing, would it be a bad idea to place the swiwel in the middle of the string? I do play with short poi quite a bit, so having it near the handle (like the Pro Handles have it) would have that disadvantage. And don't the big swiwels feel uncomfortable when they're wrapped up in your hand..? But for some reason I'd imagine them being clunky if placed near the heads while doing orbitals, and I find it hard to see how they would prevent the string from winding between the handles and the crossing point (this might be a completely irrational and wrong assumption, correct me if so). So has anybody tried if there are any major disadvantages in basically cutting the string in half and placing the swivel in the middle? If not, then that would solve both of those other problems without having to have 2 swiwels per poi..

Any helping thoughts? I did use the search engine and found answers relating to this, but I was hopeful I could possibly get comments to my specific thoughts on these preferences. Thanks for any replies in advance. grin


Edited by ReVo (23/12/09 02:30 AM)

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#901871 - 23/12/09 03:21 PM Re: glowpoi question [Re: Teamo]
Jameth Offline
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Registered: 19/05/08
Loc: NSW
I've never seen them side by side but I think Flowlights are brighter than Oggz, and within Flowlights the ones at the blue end of the spectrum are brigher than the red / organge end.

Oggs have a greater colour range, flowlights have a heap of fun strobe / timing variations.

Oggs are softer and hurt less if they hit you (great if you let friends / family play with them too) but I think you're right about their being easier to damage.

I think each has advantages and disadvantages, which is why you see both still in the market - you need to decide which factors are most important to you.

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#901874 - 23/12/09 03:40 PM Re: glowpoi question [Re: Jameth]
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I have seen Flowlights break more then Oggz personally. One that I like about Oggz is that they are rechargeable, so no money on batteries. You can however get rechargeable triple A's for the Flowlights.
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#901959 - 24/12/09 08:10 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Ninla]
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Registered: 27/05/08
Loc: Garland, TX
Originally Posted By: Ninla
Hello, I'm new here, so sorry if I did something wrong smile.

I have phosphorescent string poi and I would like something more entertaining and better quality. I was thinking about Multi-Color LED Glow Balls and a Pair of ColeCord cords with swivels and quicklinks or Jailhouse LED Glow Sock Poi or Pair of Multi-Color LED Glow Sock Poi. I need something cheap, bot not low quality.

I was thinking about Colecord. Is it really better than other cords? And does the cord if I buy it alone differ? Which pois glow brighter? Which would be more entertaining for perormances? And which would be better for learning? And I really want to learn hyperloops and orbitals. Which should I choose? Or even a cheaper way - buying all the parts separately and assembling myself ( for the string poi)?

Thank you, Ninla.


Colecord is the best rope for poi hands down! You can use the socks as well. And they can be just as good....it just depends on what kind of feel you are looking for. I personally like colecord, cause it doesn't really streach. As for lights. I had some of the multi LED balls. They are very nice. But to light for my taste. Gotta get some flowlights!

O yeah. And to learn hyperloops socks are better. For orbitals colecord. PEACE.


Edited by Derek_Faughn (24/12/09 08:12 AM)
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#901964 - 24/12/09 09:35 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Derek_Faughn]
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Derek: Flowlights are very light. You will need to add something if you want them over 100g....
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#902009 - 24/12/09 03:42 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: aston]
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Originally Posted By: aston
Derek: Flowlights are very light. You will need to add something if you want them over 100g....


well yeah...the actual flowlight its self is light, but if you got the flowtoys case, and a flowmass its heavy enough.
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#902273 - 28/12/09 10:41 AM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Derek_Faughn]
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Registered: 05/09/09
Loc: Tacoma, Washington
I just got the new pro series multifunction led poi balls of this rad website here and i gotta say they are amazing. i have them in socks but the hole for cord is sturdy and will fit colecord so its good for those who use cord over socks.

The settings on these things are rad though endless combinations of colors. great for playpoi fun time
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#907901 - 10/03/10 07:34 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: Lunaki]
D Rock Offline
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Registered: 27/01/10
Loc: el paso tx
flow lights take a triple a battery, orbs take six watch batteries its ten cents a refile verse 10 bucks, check out the flow light i love my pair, get flow masses they help

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#907904 - 10/03/10 09:42 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: D Rock]
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Registered: 29/11/05
Loc: Scotland
if your using crystal cases and flowmass then flowtoys are a good wieght and the crystal case provides plenty of cushioning for both the light and yourself so your can spin with confidence, I love my flowtoys&wouldn't waste my money on anything else now, all the other glowtoys I've tried over the past 5 years have eventually stopped working or broken over time
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#907915 - 10/03/10 11:03 PM Re: Multi-Color LED Glow Poi vs. Jailhouse Poi [Re: liquidtrance]
Jameth Offline
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Registered: 19/05/08
Loc: NSW
As with everything in life there's no perfect solution: if there was there'd only be the one product on the market. wink

I have both pro series glow balls and now flow poi: I use flow poi most of the time because of sturdiness and battery issues and because I like their weight (crystal case + flowmass).

The colour changing of the pro series is a great crowd pleaser though, so I take them to parties...

with the flow poi for backup, or for me to use whilst I let peeps play with the pro balls.

eta: fire too from time to time, but that's a whole different game


Edited by Jameth (10/03/10 11:04 PM)

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