#892225 - 19/07/09 01:38 AM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
[Re: burning_ninja]
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Registered: 05/07/09
Loc: Brisbane
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As for the swinging hard as hell comment, there is some truth in that. It's not that I swing hard, I have two speeds slowmo and blindingly quick and I know that means a hell of a lot of centrifugal force applied to the chain but my technique is very refined, I myself have never broken a set of poi but I've had to dodge broken ones on a number of occasions, more so the ball chain but I will admit I have no idea what gauge it was or who made them, but I'll stick to chains thanks.
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#892233 - 19/07/09 03:18 AM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
[Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
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Future pyrotechnician...? Or something.
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On this topic, provided you're not pulling cars or some crazy crap like that, is there a real major disadvantage to ball chains or oval links? I don't want to be getting a new pair of chains on suspicion, and my ball chains are IMPOSSIBLE to tangle mid-spin. They just sort-of roll out of it.
It's not like I'm going to be spinning more than 10 revolutions per second (let alone reach 6 or 7 decently), and the heaviest I can imagine using is the 65mm monkey fists from here, and if I wanted to go heavier I'd probably go for a new set of chains altogether. I'm also not a fan of orbitals.
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#892279 - 20/07/09 11:29 PM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
[Re: Tide]
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I don't know if you would count it as a major disadvantage but, I do find changing lengths during techniques to be more difficult and uncomfortable on the ball chain/wire.
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#892300 - 21/07/09 08:37 AM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
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I find ball chains rather easy to wrap on my hands, and an added bonus I find is that there's no tension when unwrapping because the whole thing is a chain of swivels. Thanks for the answer!
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#892367 - 22/07/09 01:08 PM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
[Re: Tide]
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I still say if only there was a way to make the stocking/sock poi flamable they're almost heaven to work with
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#892373 - 22/07/09 01:52 PM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
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Magic Monkey Juice
Registered: 21/05/09
Loc: Saaf Ingerland Innet
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I am still happy with my ballchain, but want to upgrade to larger heads, so I think if I do then I will be going for oval chains for that.
I find the ball chains really easy to use, especially for orbitals. Saying that though I have never tried orbitals with oval chains. Would pval chains with swivles have the same spin time as ball chain, I am sure there is a thread about that somewhere... Off to the search button me thinks. I will say that they do seem rather fragile, but after trying to shorten them, I realised that they are a little tougher than they seem. But I don't doubt oval are more durable.
As Tide says they (ballchain) don't tangle easily... My conclusion thus far = Ball chains are decent for slow spinning with light heads. But I will definitely be upgrading when I get larger heads and weighted handles.
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#892381 - 22/07/09 04:27 PM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
[Re: T-S-A]
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That's my plan, as well. I plan to keep my ball chains for my cathedrals and future monkeyfists, but anything larger and I'll be ordering the oval chains.
On a quick note, what's the maximum weight that should be placed on a ball chain? I think somewhere I read 300g or higher is when you should deeply consider oval chains instead of ball chains.
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#892386 - 22/07/09 07:23 PM
Re: Link Vs Ball chains
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Gorilla fists = lol If you can weave with those things without breaking your arms, chains and a person who's watching, awesometastic props.
Anyway, I almost completely forgot about factoring fuel! Would you say it's closer to making the (total) weight 1.5 times the weight of the heads or 2.0 times?
EDIT! I see this as kind-of important, because I like the ball chains and I don't want to unnecessarily abandon them, and I've had bad luck using oval chains of any sort.
EDIT! I just checked the listed characteristics of the ball chains, it claims to be able to support up to 50ish kilograms.
Edited by Tide (22/07/09 08:28 PM)
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