The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread

I'm stuggling with the 3 beat backward weave - any tips?
My planes go to pot when I cross the poi in front when spinning backwards! This generally ends up with hitting myself in the face. Luckily I practise with soft poi.

Do it slowly, practise it as a 2 beat on each side. Once you have that confidently try starting on the strongest side, and go for 1 3 beat and then back to wheel plane on each side. Repeat this on the other side until you have that stronger. Then repeat it each side until you get the transition between the 2 a little more confidently, then it's just a case of putting it all together and hopefully you should have it soon.

This is the method I used to learn it, others may have better ideas. Don't be afraid of hitting yourself either, it's only a few bruises

Good luck

MNS: The current ones are quite comprehensive. They are also pretty common, since it is viewed as such a basic move.

Maybe someone should look for some video tutorials and put them all in a thread like Simta did ages ago....

If no one objects (and/or does it before me), I may do it in a few weeks.

Inordinately pleased with myself tonight!!

I finally got the 3 beat weave sussed thanks to seeing a video that showed the hand movements from above!!

Might not sound like much but it was really bugging me!!

I have at last managed to do a reverse 2 beat weave with my right hand leading! I could do the two beat forward with both hands, and reverse with left leading but that right lead took me an hour and a half! Very begginner I know, but I've only had about ten hours of practice total.

Now...to start BTB....

Nice going!

Took me forever to do btb stuff.

Yay! I just did my first uber loop and omg are they addictive.

ghad loops piss me off majorly....even more than BTB weaves which make my back hurt due to bruises

how the hell (aston/MNS) do you do BTB? i watch all kinds of vids and read everything i can aout them but for the life of me i just keep hittin me or the poi hit each other

PS: could this just be the tails? (relation to other topic)

Well, I started with one. If you are spinning backwards, instead of crossing in front of you, you can cross behind you. Going backwards means it will be coming at you face, but you can use your other (empty) hand to ward that off, so hopefully saving a bruise or two. You can follw pretty much the same steps used to learn it in front of you, except you cross behind you back. Sounds a bit trivial I guess, but it really is that simple.

The other thing that helps is to keep the poi spinning in one plane and to rotate yourself into it. Nick Woolsey covers this in one of his tutorials and it is a good way to get used to it.

Otherwise, find soft poi and take the hits. After a while they hit less.

The tails may be part of it, but it depends on what is catching where.

Also, you might want to stretch before this, since most people do not have much range of motion behind them. Also, because of this, it may take you time to get the required flexibility to get your hand all the way around your back.

Hope that that helps.

been poiing about a month now, just started practicing the 3 beat weave 2 days ago, and got it down yesterday while waiting for the bus. hmm, what to learn next...=P

i realise that i posted my last post on the wrong topic

SO to make up for it i managed to learn the 5 beat weave forwards last night
it's still a bit sloppy and its easier with my socks. but nonetheless i am feeling very good about it

It took me forever to get backward 5 beat, try doing the motions with your wrists while hanging upside down and study that for a bit, then remember to fling the poi over instead of flopping it like fowards. Also while I'm posting, I learned btb a weird way, practice the woolsey way, one hand at a time, and then when that is comfy and fresh, do a foward weave, focus on your planes, then turn 180 and leave the poi in the same place, and you will have reverse btb. I think reverse is a bit easier, but thats me. Move your body to avoid getting hit, as you get better that movement becomes smoother.

the windmill and the fountain over the weekend
plus now that i can do a form of fountain i also found out how to smoothly switch from forwards to reverse 3 beat

all in all quite pleased especially as i stopped for months due to bad weather and no indoor space to practice

Ha! Three beat weave has been accomplished!

Excellent I was well pleased when I finally got that working!! Now I'm trying to figure it out in reverse!

I figured out how to turn with a three beat weave, smoothing going from forwards weave to backwards and repeat. Now I am working on a 5 beat weave.

Turning and reverse moves open up so many possibilities. Seriously, no matter how much you will hate it, don't stall on learning stuff on your weak side. I still can't do airwraps and hyperloops from the left!

Mine are shaky. But yes, I would almost suggest learning with your weak side first....

the contact juggler i got my start from years a go said he learns new moves on his weak side easier, perfects them on his strong side and goes back and polishes is weak side after.

I brought my Poi with me when I went on a 10 day youth exchange to Germany...turned out one of my youth leaders does Poi too so we were both Poiing around outside our log cabins and some of the other young people started watching us- we ended up teaching most of the other 15 young people how to do a butterfly, 2 beat weave and corkscrew!

Also brought it with me on a residential I went on with my young arts group last weekend-turned out that there was a guy on it, Paul who also did Poi! Paul and I Poied for a bit on the beach, I got the 3 beat down to a t, (it had been bothering me for weeks!) Paul taught me how to do a corkscrew behind my head and then I ended up taking a Poi session on the beach, teaching some of the others how to do it!