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#873915 - 20/10/08 01:48 AM Re: Poi Guidebook for Everyone ***** [Re: Stout]
Stout Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 12/05/04
Loc: Canada
Oi !!!!!!

We had a show last night and I figured I'd try to spin the whole thing thinking about a higher center of movement. Since we were spinning on dry pavement rather than Thursday night's wet grass, I figured now was as good a time as any and I might as well take advantage of the stable terrain.

Wouldn't you know it....as soon as I lit up I completely forgot the whole idea......oh well, there's always tonight's show

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#874087 - 22/10/08 10:17 AM Chapter XI (first half) [Re: Stout]
duvan Offline
ancient oachkatzlschwoaf

Registered: 13/11/02
Loc: germany
wish I could write a few things on your posts but things
are a little crazy right now and I have no time at all

yet I uploaded first half of a new chapter

oh and if you wanna do me a favour you can
rate this thread. this will not only enlarge
my ego but also your pen1s muhahaha

enjoy grin


Edited by duvan (22/10/08 10:18 AM)

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#874189 - 23/10/08 03:48 AM Re: Poi Guidebook for Everyone [Re: Stout]
joshgomera Offline
member

Registered: 30/10/05
Loc: here
hi max!!

i like your guidebook and i-m so sorry that my english isn-t as good as yours- to explain all my words, idea-s,experiences and picture-s ...

but i-m happy your german, so maybe one day we can speak about all this in our mother language...

cause some things i read ,are remebering me about things i learned in my education as teacher for sport, in modern and new dance ,thai chi,yoga and theatre-improvisation (clowning) aso

(cause about some things there-s a big book list,f.ex. didactic of sport (sportdidaktik),teaching about movement (bewegungslehre), teaching about training (trainingslehre)...aso.

also i agree a lot of what was said about dance (thanxs banshee !!)

setting different focus :step, feet, health, bodycenter, character, imagination,psychology ,chacras...

..using room and space...using bodywork ? !, using anatomic knowlegde,

these are just headliners...(sorry for all that i don-t go deeper in it now)

maybe i stay a bit longer in berlin 25.10. rob-s workshop in berlin ??

would be nice...


just now in my work is focused again in theatre /dance knowledge

using room FLoor), finding my (fool) character , rhythm, freezes, breath, "ticks"-, surprising moments (singing ??)....

for me in a group

onces more

josh


Edited by joshgomera (23/10/08 03:50 AM)

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#874197 - 23/10/08 06:45 AM Re: Naked girls pictures [Re: BansheeCat]
BansheeCat Offline
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Registered: 29/07/05
Loc: lost
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laban_Movement_Analysis

might be interesting applied to poi spinning/staff too... also the bartenief movement work.That talks about the core support( center) stuff I have been trying to outline.

I find that just being conscious of which I want a movement quality to portray, really gives intention to the movement, and it reads much clearer. very useful for choreography of all sorts.

Expereiment: Try taking the qualities and coming up with movements that fit, for example one using direct, sudden, free and light. ( first have a read about what those mean in his system!) then try changing just one element, like making the movement direct, sustained free and light. See how it changes everything... Fun to play with.

Probably with poi a super big challenge, maybe less so with staff.
have fun!
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#874217 - 23/10/08 10:18 AM Re: Naked girls pictures [Re: BansheeCat]
duvan Offline
ancient oachkatzlschwoaf

Registered: 13/11/02
Loc: germany
banshee: aaah soo much input!! thank you soo much
josh: I'll be there! see you on Saturday grin

control your body! or you'll end up like that pony

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#874225 - 23/10/08 11:52 AM Poi Guidebook... [Re: duvan]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Poor pony... frown
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#874236 - 23/10/08 02:39 PM Re: Poi Guidebook... [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
Stout Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 12/05/04
Loc: Canada
What???

Only half a chapter ?? frown

The conundrum...

Do I read it now and treat it like a work in process..go for the instant gratification ? Or do I wait until the piece is completed ??

Decisions....Decisions...

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#874238 - 23/10/08 02:47 PM Re: Poi Guidebook... [Re: Stout]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Go outside and poi! grin Instant and complete satisfaction.
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#874271 - 24/10/08 01:46 AM Re: Naked girls pictures [Re: duvan]
joshgomera Offline
member

Registered: 30/10/05
Loc: here
max:

..or already tonight

poi training:

23.10. 20h -in RAW- tempel ,berlin f-hain,revaler str.99, haus 4 .-1.stock. räume des "vereins zur überwindung der schwerkraft, u/s -bahn warschauer str.

if you haven-t been there already

see you soon

josh

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#874360 - 25/10/08 02:08 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: joshgomera]
Seye Offline
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Registered: 27/03/05
Loc: Manchester, UK
[edit]


Edited by Seye (25/10/08 06:10 AM)

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#874406 - 26/10/08 12:00 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Seye]
16.15.8 Offline
I can´t think therefore I´m not

Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
That horse reminds me of Max when he runs down a hill with a camera on his shoulder and doesn´t pay attention to the ground he´s running on grin Max knows what I mean....

But the fact is that there is people out there that got balance reminding me of that horse up there, scares me a little bit, however I know that you wont meet any of these people here on home of poi and that makes me very happy grin , body awareness.

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#874421 - 26/10/08 10:19 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: 16.15.8]
joshgomera Offline
member

Registered: 30/10/05
Loc: here
..max..


had some more thoughts about those things we spoke in long vs. short time gradification...

you spoke about zen:

me for my own found some moves that are like meditation, that really makes me calm ,are grounding me- stlil some years after i leard them !!-

cause of their rhythm -like a mantra ..or cause you can ""jump into"

feels like flying...all of them are whole body- physically and not only a poi movement itself,while your body is not moving..so they are more like dance...

also i-ve a answer to your question about using some filmparts of our
show, but this i will pm you !

a hug

josh




Edited by joshgomera (26/10/08 10:20 AM)

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#874480 - 27/10/08 01:27 PM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: joshgomera]
Pyrolific Moderator Offline
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium

Registered: 10/01/01
Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
This is Beautiful Max! I love it! smile

one suggestion;

a chapter on developing or using models for understanding and exploring object manipulation would be good. Anti's staff siteswap, I think Yuta uses a 'multiple squares' model, others use boxes/cubes for 3d space - I've seen a geometric shape model demonstrated in a video (was it Thomas?) etc etc.

I think 95% of the poiple I really idolise use some kind of model to theoretically understand poi movement.

I think models lend themselves to the development of much more interesting poi than 'trick collecting'.



Josh
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#874484 - 27/10/08 02:05 PM I'm a pony [Re: Pyrolific]
duvan Offline
ancient oachkatzlschwoaf

Registered: 13/11/02
Loc: germany
@thomas: weeeeehaaaa.. I really keep laughing when watching the video and seeing you imitating my accident, muhaha
as for other people being unbalanced, for me it was even worse than that poor pony. So I'm very glad and thankfull that I got rid of this uber-unbalancedness thanks to the help of many poiple.

ay, josh(gomera) you describe precisely what I meant, glad there are other people out there feeling like me!
still waiting for that PM grin

@josh(pyro): I planned a chapter in that I talk about a possible poi siteswap. I didn't have something like you mentioned in mind but honestly, one of the reasons I am not continuing writing at the moment is that I am getting a little scared of the size of this guidebook.
It's getting harder and harder for me to break stuff down if it is about psychology and that sorta things. Makes me feel like it might not really be helping but rather confusing one.
I'm also superbusy working on that documentary, so please be patient (do you get tired of my excuses as well?) smirk

free round of hugs for everyone grouphug

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#874491 - 27/10/08 02:51 PM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Pyrolific]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
I agree on the idea of models. My model is a simple one... simply consists of a breakdown of the components... timing, direction, poi relative to body, arm, other poi. And then everything is constructed out of that. With an emphasis on how the poi interacts with the space around you, the geometric patterns your hands and poi move on...

Apart from that its a theft of all the models I've heard of, it depends on the concept I'm battling with at the time, of course. Isolations, cateyes and the like I use Alien Jons circle theory, for example.
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#874582 - 28/10/08 10:13 PM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
aston Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
Pyrolific: I think it was Cyrille. Look for "poi geometry" in the videos forum.
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#874643 - 29/10/08 10:31 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: aston]
Pyrolific Moderator Offline
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium

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Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
yeah I reckon thats the one! smile
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#874650 - 29/10/08 11:21 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Pyrolific]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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#874697 - 29/10/08 11:58 PM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
joshgomera Offline
member

Registered: 30/10/05
Loc: here
max...

you got a pm !!!

hug
josh

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#891371 - 03/07/09 04:07 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: joshgomera]
DyamiTK Offline
beginner forever

Registered: 11/03/08
Loc: Santa Cruz, Ca
*bump

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#919233 - 05/08/10 09:43 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: DyamiTK]
Midkiff Offline
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Registered: 29/11/09
Loc: Carmi, Illinois
bump for awesomeness
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#919276 - 06/08/10 02:33 AM Re: Poi guidebook for everyone [Re: Midkiff]
Laasya Offline
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Registered: 26/05/10
Loc: USA, east coast
Thanks for the guide and the bump smile


Edited by Laasya (09/08/10 10:17 AM)
Edit Reason: typo ;~;
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