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#888822 - 23/05/09 10:04 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Konstantin]
Irinus Offline
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Hi Konstantin,

- 1m is a good length. Most people use around 1m for staff juggling (usually a little shorter).

- I don't know who started 3-staff but it was Antti and Tommi (The Amazing Rubberheart Duo) who popularized it. Unfortunately their website has gone now as they no longer perform together but their videos are on YouTube.

- I guess the easiest way to understand the "31, 41" stuff - if you're interested - is to learn the 'juggler's language' which is called Siteswap. I made a post earlier on this thread with some links that will help. Before anyone else says it, I feel that it's important to let you know that siteswap is just one way to describe juggling patterns and that if you actually want to learn the patterns that are described by the numbers, the best way is to have someone teach you / watch a video etc. However, very few (maybe 0) teaching videos exist for staff juggling at the moment, so you will probably have to figure out some patterns for yourself.

If you have a specific request for a video tutorial for a pattern (that I can do!), ask me and I'll see if I can help.

p.s. people normally reply to posts here more quickly, but the festival season has started so a lot of people are in fields at the moment smile

Hope that helps wink

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#888850 - 23/05/09 11:04 PM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Irinus]
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Hi Konstantin,
Try and keep your staffs as light as you can, staff juggling can be hard work on the muscles and you are less likely to injure yourself with lighter staffs.

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#888851 - 23/05/09 11:26 PM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: tim_marston]
Konstantin Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
Thanks for replies.

I don't have soneone to reach juggling arround. Even with clubs that seem to be most similar to staffs. (I don't do any juggling but staffs myself)
There's no tutorials but there're couple performances in youtube like Seb's Oj that is really cool. That might be enough to get an idea.
In general, I use tries and errors way to learn.
Do you have any juggling routine videos available?

Tim,
I guess that's right. Thanks to dodge skills I don't get injured but it's really hard for muscles.
But what about fire staffs when fuel gives some extra weight? Do you encounter problems with practice and fire staffs having different weight?


Edited by Konstantin (23/05/09 11:35 PM)

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#889221 - 31/05/09 08:01 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Konstantin]
entheogen Offline
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Its still less effort physically to practice the pattern with light staffs and then readjust to heavier fire staffs. That way you can practice longer before getting tired and overstraining muscles. and you should be able to make fire staffs way lighter than 500 grams. Thats good for doubles but way too heavy for holding three.

And I think Antti was the first guy to juggle three fire staffs.

At least in the wall staff spinning style plane thats most often whats being described in this forum.
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#889288 - 02/06/09 08:33 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: entheogen]
Konstantin Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
Well, wall plane looks so natural with staffs. Especially if you played with doubles. wheel throws with doubles are really rare thing. I did try it with 3 but not with fire.
Wheel plane is quite dangerous for your face at the very beginning

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#898665 - 03/11/09 01:13 PM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Konstantin]
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well - I can pretty much run three staffs in a wall plane cascade now.

I can nearly do the reverse wall plane cascade on clubs - so I guess 'three staff logics' will be the next short term goal.

yay! smile progress! smile
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#898721 - 04/11/09 03:37 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Pyrolific]
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How long are your staffs?
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#898739 - 04/11/09 07:49 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Fire_Moose]
tim_marston Offline
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mine are 3 foot or 0.9m long,

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#898747 - 04/11/09 12:17 PM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: tim_marston]
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mine are about 70cm, and very very light. They just have about 1 1/2 inches of wick on each end, and a 1cm annodised aluminium shaft. no grip tape, although I really want to add some soon.

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#898810 - 05/11/09 07:15 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: Pyrolific]
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two triple staff juggling patterns, from me performing at the bjc 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOlhKexZ1kU

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#899283 - 14/11/09 08:01 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: tim_marston]
tracerammo Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Loc: Oregon
Dude, this guy Zan on youtube.com rocks the doube staff juggling. Lots of great moves in that video. I get mad inspiration from it. Check it out!
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#899432 - 17/11/09 06:26 AM Re: Beginning Staff Juggling? [Re: tracerammo]
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any links?

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