3D poi spinning with photos (arms does not bend that way)

No worries, I got plenty of space at my cyber crib

I would be an honor for me to store some of your knowledge in my room

//Thomas

are you talking about his website? If so, I need to keep a watch on that because I would love a more expansive picture on the subject. (especially with pictures)

Olive: If you have some files that need to be hosted, I may be able to help as well.

And thanks for the permission for Pete to post stuff. Is this maybe discussed on Tribes somewhere?

Any suggestion on how out of plane "really out of plane" should be? I guess I will have to find a large window....

I would say that if you spin your poi so that you have a 90° angle in between the two planes of your poi.
The corner of this angle (the top of the cone) should point straight towards the camera or the person watching.

You get what I mean, if not I´m happy to do a simple painting.
This is my idea and how I work with it, if I´m not mistaken Olive got another explanation or if it´s the same in the end

I´m so happy

//Thomas

Oh..I get it now.

We're talking planes at 45 degrees...between wheel and wall plane and with poi too long to make those extensions impossible in wall plane only.

Yep...that would be 3D as opposed to the regular flat planes ( proscenium ) idea that we all know and love.

cheers.

YES! In wallplane you are very limited if you want to do 2 separate patterns, you need to have very short poi while if you play like this you can do full arm extensions and get full length flowers and mix two full extended patterns.

Whoa, brain overload, to much ideas

I love my life

//Thomas

Wait.. wait..

I get it but it will take some damn time to figure out the possibilities. Oh well, I will try to see if I can catch any photos on a photo shoot sometime soon...

*click*

Will play with it when I get the chance to breath....

Ok, the files is up, free to download by anyone and a big thanks to Olive, you truly are a poi geek (that´s a good thing)

http://www.nevisoul.com/3D.zip

N > 'Dual circle horizontal intercept'

I think the front & the side view, shoud more look like a circle,
to get final, isometric(3D) ellipse illusion.

About the inside and outside, I think, tie the pictures together.

It's reel,

:R

Thanks Thomas.

Will attempt to provide feedback too.

N > Because, you can get inside-out butterfly, working quite well,
which cover both inside and ouside in reel like motion.

Practicaly:

- Pendulum + Inswings
- Butterfly + Inswings
- TTN + Inswings

It's the in-out cross-over:


This allow, to create reel instance.

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Answer for the Cube 1.

cmd successfull,

:R

N > God bless Rev for his shine on.

The explanation of the 'plane' view is described
partialy in Frames of Confusion. The reso-
lution is that:


This allow, to create delimitated picture.

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Answer for the Cube 2.

cmd successfull,

:R

Wow...I'm confused again, but some very interesting concepts. Just wish I could get my head around them

ditto...

At first I thought it was about simple separations

Then I thought it was about separated atomics...which would dovetail nicely with the 3D idea.

Then I'm looking at drawings which i can't make head or tail of..

Then Richee posted....

Now it's time to ask for a narrated tutorial

Pleeeeeeeeease.

I understand half of the pictures...

The circle with the dot in the middle is you, Outside planes are regular flowers done by the sides, but with a 45 degree shift angling in at the front so they can now be viewed from the front as well as the side, "inside planes" is the same concept done in a wall plane, so that you can then see it from the SIDES as well as in front.

The dots are reference points... so where the poi or hands are at a given time.

Damn, the more I look at these pictures the less I understand. I think I could get it if I knew what the symbols meant, the dots and the lines and all that.

The pictures were just another piece of the puzzle that makes up this topic, but I'm still looking for the piece that fits between them.

I tried spinning at 45 deg planes but when I tried turning them into wallplane flowers I ended up beating the tar out of myself. Same same in wallplane, so I just played around with atomics, hoping something creative would spit itself out...no luck it was the same old split time atoms with hands together, hands apart wheel/wall, overhead/wheel stuff I always spin...I couldn't get anywhere near anything that could be called a flower.

So we got what looks and sounds like 45 degree planes here
And flowers

I need that missing piece.

There is no missing piece, I think. You do everything, it sounds like. What I would guess is wrong is the timing and the planes that needs to be perfect to make it possible to see two longarm patterns.

Hope you understand what I mean, I will soon post a video with some flower pattern photos in it, I will also show how they are done in the video. Maybe I should try out some 3D stuff and you totally see how it works?

Keep spinning, whatever you do, dont stop

//Thomas

Perfect timing and planes ????

Damn

There's always a catch,,, isn't' there ?

I won't stop spinning until they have to pry the poi out of my cold, dead hands..

Stout: Excellent approach.

I am also having trouble getting clean patterns from the front. Think my angles are off.

Ah well, will keep trying.