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#872874 - 09/10/08 12:23 PM Counterweights and Juggling
4LeafClover Offline
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Registered: 21/08/08
I hope this belongs in this forum, because it has to do with choreography. So anyways, I just got back from a pretty interesting 'freestyle' session. When just practicing, especially with no plan, anything can happen so I usually use my practice poi, it is just tube socks, with tennis balls in the bottom and a knot tied to the top.

So, naturally the knot creates a bit of weight, and I remember Nathaniel Everest posting a video on his youtube account about counterweights, and he kind of threw the poi, it flipped in the air and he caught it back to regular position. Well my practice poi socks are too short to add in a counterweight, but I probably will if I get bigger socks, or weight for my new poi to get in the mail.

So Nathaniel, you could probably answer this. Along with many other members, when I tried throwing them up in the air and caught them, it sort of worked and then it crossed my mind that this technique could be used in a slower part of a routine, where in split time you threw the poi in the air, it flipped and you caught it (possibly in the other hand, but I do not think that is necessary).

So I wondered if anybody has ever used this technique, or something similar. I also thought that if I got good at that, eventually I could use three poi and it would be like juggling, then you could go into a routine that used three poi http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/default/crazy.gifhttp://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/default/shocked.gif

So has anybody done this? And what are your thoughts on this?
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#872886 - 09/10/08 01:27 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: 4LeafClover]
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Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Australia!!!! Victoria, Geelon...
I'm not 100% sure on what you're really talking about, but any poi can be thrown, some work more effectively, some work in different ways, my poi curve in a perfect arc with the poi head facing inward for most of the throw, just before I have to catch it.

You can probably catch the poi directly into a stall if it doesn't turn well enough to keep the rotation going... You could give it a flick to get more rotation out of it and all that kind of junk.

You can put plasticine up the end of your poi, you don't need to tie anything and they should remain the same length... the plasticine will just clump to the fabric. smile


3 poi juggling is entirely possible, but its not an area of poi I feel would be beneficial to my style...

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#872890 - 09/10/08 02:19 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
railspinner Offline
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Registered: 08/10/08
Loc: canada
I use counter weighted handles, it opens up all kinds of avenues for possibility.
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#872923 - 09/10/08 09:59 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: railspinner]
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Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England
*is confused*

Er - try searching the boards for "throwing poi", "weighted handles", "poiggling", "juggling poi", "wibbles", "contact poi", "whip catches"...
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#872969 - 10/10/08 05:39 AM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: Durbs]
4LeafClover Offline
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Durbs, I tried some of those, and a few others. Maybe I did not read far enough, but I did not find the type of discussion I wanted. Anyways, I knew poi could be thrown, or else nobody would have any information. To sum it up, for those not completely sure of what I am talking about. I was wondering if throwing poi was a common move in routines, or ever used. Personally I have never seen those techniques used in routines.
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#872985 - 10/10/08 09:34 AM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: 4LeafClover]
meshunderlay Offline
Juggler/Spinner

Registered: 15/09/08
Loc: Hicksville, New York, USA
Check out the video linked http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/ubbt...html#Post621063 There.

It's linked under the name "Spinach Sessions". The second man in the video does some throws.

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#873017 - 10/10/08 02:04 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: meshunderlay]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Australia!!!! Victoria, Geelon...
When mentioning throws you can't leave out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfBGcqxTGQ

The part I'm pointing out occurs at 6:29 onward, watch that man.

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#873021 - 10/10/08 02:36 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
4LeafClover Offline
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Registered: 21/08/08
Alright, thanks guys. Really starting to get a good handful of knowledge on this subject, definitely an aspect I'm willing to dive into.
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#873039 - 10/10/08 07:21 PM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: 4LeafClover]
aston Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
I think most people avoid them because they can look very sloppy.

I want to use them more though, they can also be a case of wtf did he just do?
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#873091 - 11/10/08 09:04 AM Re: Counterweights and Juggling [Re: aston]
4LeafClover Offline
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Registered: 21/08/08
Originally Posted By: aston
I think most people avoid them because they can look very sloppy.

I want to use them more though, they can also be a case of wtf did he just do?


Yeah. Like anything, if it is overused, however, if played right at the perfect time it really adds something. I have noticed things like that with Magic and CJ (I do both)
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