#865846 - 03/07/08 06:21 PM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: fire.chef]
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old hand
Registered: 29/05/03
Loc: In a test pit, Mackay
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How about a ute? (I think they're called pick-ups elsewhere). We have a 75 series landcruiser with a canopy on the back that you can camp in; the tray is slightly larger than a queen matress. If you need to take something to the dump or cart dirt around, take the canopy off and put the tray sides on. If you need security get a solid-side canopy instead of a canvas one. Massively practical, and this vehicle is solely responable for wrenching me away from my long attachment to Landrover and into the hand of Toyota.
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#865847 - 03/07/08 11:32 PM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: Eera]
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Official EJA poi representative
Registered: 28/04/04
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
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If you're going to be using it around a city, think about the height of the vehicle. We always have to plan ahead about where to park in a high roof VW camper - multi-storey carparks are completely out, and I don't know what it's like where you live, but almost every carpark here has a height barrier - even supermarket carparks etc, which can make life difficult around town.
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#865849 - 04/07/08 03:38 PM
Re: Van or Car?
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old hand
Registered: 29/05/03
Loc: In a test pit, Mackay
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Oh, come on UCOF, you know you look good in flannies and trackie-daks. Our canopy is actually a welded aluminium job, the only bit of it that's tarp are the side windows, and we have lockable allie flaps to cover them when him indoors is taking his Snap on Tools for a ride. Check out http://www.chieftaincanopies.com.au/tradesman-canopy-gallery.htmGo the ute! The invention responsable for losing more dogs than any other.
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#865850 - 04/07/08 09:52 PM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: Eera]
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Sound Geek
Registered: 27/03/05
Loc: Manchester
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#865852 - 05/07/08 01:49 AM
Re: Van or Car?
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Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Registered: 12/08/04
Loc: Wales
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You can tell it's not a transit because it's not rusty  Jon we have got to get you over this ford fetish.
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#865853 - 05/07/08 05:39 AM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: Skulduggery]
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compfuzzled
Registered: 11/04/06
Loc: smoke-on-trent
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some info i got from someone on a diff forum i go on regarding damage to engine regarding veg oil etc... Written by 'Whitedog@psy-forum'
It all depends on two factors:
1) The type of diesel pump.
There are two basic designs of diesel pump, Bosch, and Lucas.
The Bosch type is fine with veg oil, but the Lucas type doesn't like it. It shoulud also be noted that if you use neat veg. oil (i.e. not mixed with derv), then you should fit a heater into the fuel line, as neg oil is more viscous than diesel, ao can put more of a strain on the pump, espcially in cold weather. Fuel heaters cost around £80
2) The engine - If it is an old style basic diesel engine, then there should be no problem. The diesel engine was originally designed to run on peanut oil, and most non-direct-injection diesels will be just fine running on just about any veg oil. Modern direct-injection engines can have problems with it, however, as apparently, the oil can slip past the piston rings, and condense in the sump, contaminating the lubricating oil, and thus causing excessive engine wear, so it is not a good idea to use veg oil in a direct-injection diesel engine.
My motor is a 16 year-old Mitsubishi 2.8 turbo diesel, and it has been running on a mixture of veg oil (used and fresh) and diesel for over a year now, with no problems. i also know of a few people who have been doing it for quite a bit longer than that.
So the answer really is to reearch the type of engine, and diesel pump, before buying a van which you want to run on veg oil.
Theere is a good deal of information on the net, for most engines, just do a search for the manufacturer's name and "vegeatble oil".
This is also possibly a good starting point: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/...base/index.php
Hope that helps
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#865855 - 07/07/08 01:17 AM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: Look_This_Changes]
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addict
Registered: 12/07/04
Loc: Bristol
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Something to bear in mind if you do get a van is that London are bringing in the emissions charge in 2010 so it will cost you something like £100 a day to drive large vehicles in London.
Obviously only matters if you are going to be in London a lot though.
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#865857 - 07/07/08 09:05 AM
Re: Van or Car?
[Re: misscorinthian]
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old hand
Registered: 29/05/03
Loc: In a test pit, Mackay
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There are two basic designs of diesel pump, Bosch, and Lucas.
The Bosch type is fine with veg oil, but the Lucas type doesn't like it
Nuh-uh. The other half was a Bosch diesel fuel injection specialist for 14 years. He's seen many a fuel pump buggered by veg oil, not to mention engine seals. A power unit is designed to burn a single fuel; diesel, anything else is going to destory its innards.
You can get multi-fuel engines, the army fit them to many of its vehicles and we had an ex-military land rover that could cope with just about anything, but you had to adjust the air mix and the timing for each specific fuel. The bloke who is running a veg oil car has been lucky, but when a diesel goes wrong, it does it spectacuarly and expensively, and it's going to happen to him.
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