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#850827 - 01/12/07 01:03 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: georgemc]
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my dad is famous in scotland, and if you're a fiddle player, everywhere. can i post a pic of him?
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#850828 - 01/12/07 02:31 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: LazyAngel]
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.

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You'd never guess I'm not a huge psytrance fan, would you?


Now one thing I never understand is why the melodic, complex, witty, rhythmically varied and altogether tending towards actual music of Shpongle ever ever gets lumped with doofdoofdoofdoofyawnscream pystrance!

Some of Hallucinogen (another Posford adventure) heads that way.. but Sphongle's the OTHER stuff

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if it weren't for the wikipedia post I'd be sitting here and thinking Gabe was all spaced out and ish !!



Who me

OK well that's it for me and celebs really. Unless you count... um... Yuta?
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#850829 - 11/12/07 02:16 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: newgabe]
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Ive got pictures of Gabe spinning Poi nand she's a celeb - does that count!?
I have to say - I agree with Pele - Even though ive got a good chance of winning having trained 7 celebs Fire - im not into the 'exclusive' nature of this comp - how does it help the Poi community? No 'real' celeb is gonna be upfor having their photo used on a net site without thier consent
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#850830 - 11/12/07 03:17 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: FireNix]
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Pssst.... FireNix I have to disagree.... Although not everyone knows who Stephen Lynch is he is still pretty well known. He was all for it.
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#850831 - 11/12/07 08:27 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: ACT]
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I think that given you will have had to hand the celebrity the poi/staff/whatever and then get them to spin, or at least hold it as you took a photo then it would be pretty difficult to do it without consent!

And how does it not help the poi community anymore than the calendar does? There's nothing wrong with a bit of harmless fun for the sake of a bit of harmless fun.
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#850832 - 12/12/07 04:41 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.

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Yeah me, I'm all for it too. I'm a celeb! Woot!
I met the Dalai Lama a few times. But I couldn't get him my poi quick enough.
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#850833 - 12/12/07 06:41 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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The competitions rules have changed slightly too.... It now includes impersonators. Santa Claus and elvis ^^
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#850834 - 12/12/07 05:28 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: ACT]
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Yeah, but "malcolm" impersonators probably won't cut it
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#850835 - 13/12/07 02:54 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: georgemc]
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Yeah, but "malcolm" impersonators probably won't cut it



Thats okay because I got the real deal of a celeb
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#850836 - 13/12/07 11:11 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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Im not saying that celebs arent gonna want to swing Poi, but isnt there is an issue with copyright of their image, for a project for financial gain?
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#850837 - 14/12/07 11:44 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: FireNix]
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Nope..... if there was all those mags out there making up lies about celebs would be out of business since all their pics and stories are being sold....


90% of what is on the web about celebs is bullcrap and most celebs are not going to give it a time of day. Home of Poi is not making money on this only the Hopper that is submitting the material and even then the hopper is NOT making money but winning cool things. The Hopper is being "paid" in merchandise not cash and the hopper is not using it for their own COMMERCIAL gain! And I am using the word "Paid" very loosely.

The celebs and the photographer both have the rights to the photograph. .

The general rule of photography is.....

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Public photography is wide open
That’s the general rule. When you’re on public property (a street, sidewalk, city park, etc) you can take pictures of what you see. This means that you can also photograph private property as long as you’re not trespassing to get the shot.



And the answer to your question in full on US laws is......

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Publicity and Privacy Rights of Individuals

You may need permission to photograph people due to state laws giving individuals privacy and publicity rights.

Most states in the US recognize that individuals have a right of privacy. The right of privacy gives an individual a legal claim against someone who intrudes on the individual's physical solitude or seclusion, and against those who publicly disclose private facts. Unless you have permission, avoid publishing or distributing any photo of an individual that reveals private facts about the individual (particularly if revealing those private facts might embarrass the individual).

Almost half the states in the US recognize that individuals have a right of publicity. The right of publicity gives an individual a legal claim against one who uses the individual's name, face, image, or voice for commercial benefit without obtaining permission. In case you are wondering how the news media handle this, newspapers and news magazines have a "fair use" privilege to publish names or images in connection with reporting a newsworthy event.

Be particularly careful about celebrities. Using a photograph of a celebrity for your own commercial gain - for example, posting a photo you took of Clint Eastwood on your business's marketing material or business Web site - is asking for a lawsuit, even if you took the photograph when you ran into Clint on a public street.





The Hopper taking the picture is not posting it on a website to use for their own commercial gain. Now if I added words to the Steven Lynch pic advertising my business, then yes I would be screwed. There are things celebs have to do first before they can sue you and one of them is ask to have the picture removed from the site before they can take legal action.

But overall if a celeb agrees to the picture, then your pretty much in the clear.

Thankfully HOP is in NZ and the laws I am sure is different from the US. Overall there is nothing hoppers have to worry about, if a celeb asks for the pic to be taken down it will get taken down. Everything I just explained is also for the general public not just celebs.

I understand the worry but overall celebs have more important things to do then worry about this website. This is a contest not a marketing ploy to promote the website through the use of a celeb photo.
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#850838 - 17/12/07 01:50 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: ACT]
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Thanks for the answer
Succinct, precise and knowledgeable - I salute you
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#850839 - 17/12/07 04:29 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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Way to put people up on pedestals! Who Cares Celeb or not... We are all just People art we? Money Changes People anyway...
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#850840 - 18/12/07 07:00 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: FireNix]
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Thanks for the answer
Succinct, precise and knowledgeable - I salute you



Thats US laws though.... NZ's laws are different I am sure. George? Where art thou......

I kind of have to know these stuff being a photographer.
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#850841 - 18/12/07 10:45 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: ACT]
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To be honest I'm not sure what the law says other than there's no sueing, but we would tend to apply common sense or "Golden rule" law/guideline - as in how would people want to be treated themselves and therefore use photo's sensibly, with taste and remove if requested.
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#850842 - 21/12/07 11:17 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: georgemc]
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Here's an example of how hard "celebrity" may be to define. Sally Phillips spins poi (and is HILARIOUS in pointing out typical poi spinner behavior) in I believe the first episode of "Jam and Jerusalem" ("Clatterford" in the US on BBC America). But outside of England, I don't think she counts as a "Celebrity" -- so would she count?


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#850843 - 24/12/07 02:09 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Orbit]
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What an odd competition...

Have to be lucky to even have a chance of entering it. I know I haven't had a chance.
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#850844 - 25/12/07 03:38 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Orbit]
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 Written by: Orbit


Here's an example of how hard "celebrity" may be to define. Sally Phillips spins poi (and is HILARIOUS in pointing out typical poi spinner behavior) in I believe the first episode of "Jam and Jerusalem" ("Clatterford" in the US on BBC America). But outside of England, I don't think she counts as a "Celebrity" -- so would she count?



Sure why not? I dont know who Dooper Dog is but I do now because of the competition.

@Basstones- Thats why they changed it to look a likes to, Santa, elvis etc..... You could do impersonations of Elfvis magic cards
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#850845 - 06/01/08 09:24 PM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: ACT]
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Pele reckoned I look like Margaret Thatcher one day when I wore a dress. Hmmm, I wonder if I can find that dress
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#850846 - 19/01/08 01:51 AM Re: Celebs and Poi Question [Re: Malcolm]
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Hmm...

Antti... you have pics of you doing fire knife with the Cirque du Soleil crew... they're pretty famous in these circles... you could enter that

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