FireNix
old hand
Registered: 04/04/01
Loc: India/Bristol
OOOOoooo - would have looved to have been there for those workshops Bro - checkin out what you and Bastl have cooked up over the Winter!! Gonna have to get you out here in NZ sometime to teach stuff to our kids - hoping to train up some staff passers over the next year Love to all the BJC-ers and hope you have fun at PLAY PM on the way in regards that Peas
Yeah, Rob showed me it again the next day and, now that I've figured out the catching position better, I can get much longer runs Hopefully solid soon with a bit more practice
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
yo hello together,
i got a new trick "running" yesterday for the first time: tataaaa a "logic" done with (inside) backcrosses & (outside) flats, actually more half turns than flats
irinius: what catching position do you use for mikes mess ? i tryied yesterday to use "snake-position-catches" in order to make the turn smoothers, but they are hard catches so what did you do ?
thats the only news i have got hope to see you guys soon, for another jam
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In what pattern do you do your "backross-flat" stuff? Is it like a shower, in which case I guess it goes "one backcross, one flat, one backross, etc..." Or cascade, which would go "3 backcross, 3 flat, etc...".
Have you managed to do a "giant arm pirouette" under mike's mess yet? I think I am gonna try it tonight.
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
yo kevin, good to hear from you
i totally forgot about giant arm mikes mess...have to try
a "logic" is the name (named by mr. irinius) of an inside-outside cascade. so 3 times inside, 3 times outside. in that manner the staffs never have to change direction, and as such the pattern is a "logic" staff pattern
so yes i did the kaskade version you descriped. a flatback-logic
Written by :kevstaff
And I worked on the boston mess! Sweeet!
allright, so in flats, or with staffs still turning ? all same direction or different ? i never found a way to keep a staff rotating in same direction by underarm throws & catches.... video ?
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Oh ok I didn't know the term, but I do use "logic", I'll try your version of it!
About boston mess I think I'm mistaken... I'm talking about that move you showed me! Kinda like a mill's mess, but with another under-the-arm throw, then turn your hands, ands same think the ther side... argh juggling is hard to explain!
Okay : this, 4'14, but continuesly :
I also tried to do the insidethrows of my logic backcross, but the left side is still too weak...
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
Written by :kevstaff
About boston mess I think I'm mistaken... I'm talking about that move you showed me! Kinda like a mill's mess, but with another under-the-arm throw, then turn your hands, ands same think the ther side... argh juggling is hard to explain!
yo the move i showed you is my version of a rubensteins revenge, i am still not sure if it actually is one...thomas dietz says yes, but other jugglers no...so whom to trust?
anyway, i like the pattern, to juggle and to watch..one of my favorites... make video about all the tricks you got!!! how is your 531 going on ?
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Yeah I might make a video in about a month when I have more time... (and yes rubenstein's revenge sorry!)
I got the 531 we work on last time, but still having trouble to keep it for more than 3 times... I also work on a "logic" 531 (531 on the outside throws), and on a wicked "on the foot" 531 (I'll post it as soon as I have it!)
Same for you, your videos are always a pleasure to watch!
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
Written by :kevstaff
I got the 531 we work on last time, but still having trouble to keep it for more than 3 times... I also work on a "logic" 531 (531 on the outside throws), and on a wicked "on the foot" 531 (I'll post it as soon as I have it!)
yo a logic 531 is a really good idea thank you! i have to try
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hi everyone, im getting a stiff neck from juggling,its on the back left side of my neck.i think it started from the shower(im left handed) but now training the casacade makes it worse as well. if i have some time off training these tricks it goes away and when i start training them it comes back, i warm up well before training and try and relax when juggling,i also dont do really long runs on each pattern. any ideas?
willworkforfoodjnr
Hunting robot foxes
Registered: 08/08/07
Loc: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Made a pretty nice shower entry last night - out of the cascade throw 7411 with the 7 as a reverse and the 11 just a quick spin from hand to hand and back - they all line up nicely spinning in the same direction and drop into a shower
I'm pretty sure it could be done with a pirouette while spinning the 11 but that'll take more work.
Tim, if you're getting consistent problems I'd go see a physio and get some proffessional advice
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
Written by :tim_marston
hi everyone,
im getting a stiff neck from juggling,its on the back left side of my neck....any ideas?
go to a therapist, honest, you have trained your skills for ages, now to loose them would be such a shame, so go and find a good therapist!!!!soon!!!
one exercise from sonja i really enjoy is saying yes&no at the same time make a slow - big - yes (nodding you had) and loads of small gentle noīs (turning right left) at the same time.
BUT thats just a wicked warm up exercise. it wonīt help you with allready existing injurys.
dude get help! you are needed to throws staffs for some more years
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hey seb ive been to a chiropracter and he has dome weird things to my muscles which is great and seem to cure the injury/pain, ive also been to a massage woman who is also a thai chi guru and and ex olympic gymnast/coach she has worked on my posture and taught me lots of stretches to help, ive got my should injury under control now,the neck thing is irritating,im trying to relax when juggling as im pretty sure its tension causinbg the pain,but its hard to relax when working on the four staffshower etc
ive spent a few hours on the cascade and its coming on well,i can qualify it easily now and have had some 1ups,2ups and a 3up(to a stop),im training it with lots of height and spin variations and really enjoying the fun of having a new a juggling pattern to play with(ive spent 3 years on the shower only) thanks again for the advise and the inspiration,i drool when i think of the five staff cascade on fire at night in front of a crowd......................so i promise to look after myself and continue to juggle staffs for many years to come
rob im working on some megalight indoor staffs following your idea,i have some fibre glass tubing which im gonna run and ash or beech dowel through, i am hoping they wont bend as much, what did you weight your ends with and how do you stop the rod poking thru the tape after being dropped?
bastl
member
Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
hello togehter
i canīt work it out, so how does it work??:
the 3 staff split (vertical!) -just thrown from one hand,
beautifully executed by josh (min4.01) & tophe(?) (min 3.19)in the "staff juggling only" vid.
all test always end in a horizontal split, not vertical. please give me a hint. -how do you hold the staffs to start, which end up?
cheerio sebastian
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bastl
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Registered: 22/08/04
Loc: vienna / austria
Written by :AnotherCircle
Hand, not end, no ?
well hands & staff ends, there must be a way (package) of holding the 3 staffs...but which ? cheerio, sebastian
PS wotruba is starting to grow
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