The Poi "I just learned a new advanced move / combo" thread

Just managed to get whip catches down lately

Same as most, have been slowing down my progress as it's got colder.

Have spent a lot of time playing with floaters and isolation trying to get them better.

Realised I can do meltdowns the other day, never really spent any time on them, just kinda did it and been able too sinse (sloppy hough).

I've been working on a lot of contact poi, foot poi, and even some foot contact poi recently. This includes the halo (with one poi), reverse fishtails, inverted fishtails, poi kickups, foot fishtails and kickups into hand fishtails.. all with poi..

Playing with some new catches and throws has been good fun. Got btb-throw to bth-catch down quite well.. playing with some other plane-change throws as well as just trying to get the hang of throwing different types of throw with each hand, simultaneously.

using airwraps to change plane is a pretty crazy field, but its good fun.

and forever expanding my knowledge of plane-changey-ness.. thats awesome..


I'm feeling somewhat inclined to stick up a foot poi demonstration video. not quite a how-to video, but something that'll help. I've finally got my video camera back, so time to start filming

I got some really nice transitions. After opening up utl movement for myself I just gained a whole new level of flow

I also figured out that I can do an orbital from a meltdown by in the middle of it, the one that's behind me goes under my legs (oh yeah) and tangles with the one in front and I pull. And BAM! instant crowd pleaser. Told my girlfriend about it, using explanations of the orbital because she doesn't know the names, and she told me never to do that with fire, she needs my junk

Also a combo combining utl with the uta crosser where the hand at the bottom goes utl from the front, cross to the back from the side, and back utl from the back that time.

I've recently found a new level of flow for me around the time I got my girlfriend, I have a theory that she cleared my mind making me better. (possibly good thread topic) Also I've been using a lot more stalls, crossers, turns, and utl things than before.

That foot stuff looked quite interesting in the video you posted. I have practiced most of the throw combos so now I'm diverting into negative space stuff and am also practicing atomic plane changing especially in staggered timing.

I just did a couple dozen pretty clean spiral wraps. I can do spiral wraps!

What is negative space please?

In artspeak, negative space with respect to a figure or figures is the space around those figures, all the area on the canvas they do not occupy (often with the emphasis being the part of it immediately surrounding the figure). I imagine it would apply to utl/inverted/under arm stuff, though I suppose only Leo can clarify for sure what he means by it.

In poi and juggling in general negative space refers to making a hole using your body and/or props and then manipulating that hole or sticking something through the hole.

For example extend one arm forwards and stall the other poi head on that arm and then you just have made a hole with your poi and arm, you can then pass the other poi through that hole or stick your leg or other body part through the hole or whatever you can imagine. Holes can be created with the whole body (arms, foot, legs, shoulder, neck, etc.) and even the poi by themselves can be headlocked to create a hole.

I get it now

Sounds hard o0

After watching Poiboys tech blogs, I got inspired to learn split time isolation/antispin hybrid. It's aweseome.

Same as isolation/extention hybrid but in butterfly. So Isolating one poi, and then other hand following the head of the other poi to make the antispin... It's teh fun.

Is it antispin as in a cateye? Or do you mean like a trifoil-isolations hybrid with hands in same time? I can do those, except the trifoil one my hands have to be in split time.

Just thought id post a list of all the moves i know, in the order i learnt them (more or less)

POI:
2 beat weave forward
2 beat weave reverse
3 beat weave forward
3 beat weave reverse
5 beat weave forward
Butterfly
BTB butterfly OTH
Thread the needle forward
Thread the needle reverse
Fountains
Corkscrew
Stalls
Windmill
Giant windmill
watermill
buzzsaw
butterfly reverse
Spirals
Flowers
Flowers antispin
Huggy Crossers same direction
Huggy Crossers butterfly
Buzzsaw fountains + antispin
Full body crosser
Guy's Gyroscope
Parallel Pirouette
Split time butterflys
Split Pirouette
Opposite Pirouette
Horizontal butterfly
Horizontal thread the needle
mind meltdown
waist wrap
BTB waist wraps (left side)
BTB waist wraps (right side)
3 beat BTB weave reverse
Isolations
5 beat weave reverse
wall plane antispin flowers
4 beat corkscrew
4 beat fountain
1.5s
cat eye
butterfly split time mirror floaters
btb waist wrap back and forward
High reels + turning both directions
low reels + turning both directions
Wiggle
2 beat btb weave forward
Triquetra both directions + switching
3 beat btb weave forward
btb 3 beat weave turning
inversions
butterfly buzzsaw cap
Huggy crossers turning
Basic CAP extension/antispin
Same time stalls wall plane
Split time stalls wall plane
Stall plane changing
BTB 5 beat weave forward
floaters
one handed butterfly
CAP hybrids
split time butterfly floaters wallplane
Waist wrap
Stall carrover variation

Wraps:
Single bicep wraps
Single forearm wraps
Leg wraps
Alternate forearm wraps
shotguns
Sun Wraps
Double bicep wrap
neck wraps
Knee wraps
Arm traces
Knee traces
moon wraps
pirouettes
Huggy crosser sametime/butterfly switches
btb foot wrap(from bicep and back)
double side leg wrap
airwrap
Buzzsaw to butterfly buzzsaw
bicep through wrap
neck through wrap

Manipulations:
Double catch
link catch
Bowtie
Reverse direction mid air (sametime hit string near stick)
Double catch toss switches
double catch toss switch loop in inside spin to orbit
catch up high toss loop in orbit
Orbit
Orbit continuance
Orbit exit
Hyperloop
Ollies
Butterfloop

No idea what that is

Basicly, if you think of standard isolation/extention hybrid where the extention hand follows the head of the isolated poi which is split time same direction. It's basicly that, but poi in opposites. So hands are moving same direction, well the 1 that would be doing extention, with poi in opposites.

I suppose the easiest way of describing it is if you think of doing a triuetra, the hand that would be doing the extention is isolated, and instead of 3 petals, you do 4, well, you could do 3 if you wanted.

So left hand isolated, right hand following the head of left hand with the poi spinning opposite for the antispin.... If that makes sense.

Now I know what you mean, and yes, that is fun ^^

Probably my favorite hybrid and I am finally getting to learning to do it in every way possible

As for the trifoil-isolation hybrid, here you go:

I think the shortest way to describe what TSA was getting at is a isolation/antispin antibrid.

Ahhhh I know what you mean now, and that looks like what I have been doing... I suck at names, confusion over.




Antibrid?

Oh that's what you've been doing. No I can't do that yet, I don't have any poi at the moment other than my stretchy ass foxxy poi and they suck nuts for that.

I'm being thick (looked at the video yesterday and posted last night when at work where youtube and everything else is blocked (hence all the stupid paint pictures).

I don't have that one down yet.

This is what I have recently learned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHxxSHWodJI

I guess that's an easier way to talk about it without all the mumbojumbo from before

Oh and if your looking for new poi, I highly recomend these, they are what I first bought and still use them every day nearly. They are sterdy material with no stretch, but soft on the skin, and for stuff like orbitals and that, when they have been worn in, they can spin for ages (not quite as long as swivels, but more than most socks i have played with). Plus if you have glow balls or something you can put them in and they will shine through.

http://firetoys.co.uk/juggling/Speevers_Sock_poi.html

(Sorry HoP for linking another shop, message me or mod delete if it's out of order)

An antibrid is simply a hybrid were one hand is following the head of the other poi. As far as I understand.

Following the head of the other poi while that one is antispining?

So left hand isolate, right hand antispin, right hand following left poi head, yea?

As far as I know.

There are a whole bunch of them though.

Learned split time butterfly antispin wallplane flower turns, and carrying the Nevisoul prayer hand thingy into a windmill. Meltdown pirouettes, and a number of other turns.

Oooh, Nevisoul Prayer Hand thingy, by far my favourite name for it ever in the history of ever. I learned to go everywhere with it, I love that move. I also learned to go everywhere with the huggie isolation over the head thing. Except it's not always over the head anymore for me I also learned to add extra beats to it like a 4bt windmill, but it gets rid of a lot of the beauty I think.

Also seen it called beatswitch. Try it also from side to side and at a diagonal angle. it makes all sorts of interesting visual effects.

Which one is called the beatswitch, I was never quite sure about that. I do do both of them to different spots. If it's the huggie isolation thing, than I already do that side to side diagonal thing, it feels so nice

I think it's the prayer hand thing that's called a beatswitch.

Ok, I was never sure what to call it. Beatswitch, lockout, Jesus hand, everybody clap your hands!, super happy fun time, or just hand thing

But really, yay I know the name

Also I realized I never put it on here. I learned it quite a while ago. Not really sure how long ago, but the antispin 4x4 fountain.

I never did figure out an antispin 4x4. VIDEO. NOW.

haha, idk of a video made for it, when I am able to go outside and fid something to put the camera on, because I am still at a lack of tripod, I'll get that along with my fun noname waistwrap type thingy that I made up.

Also, try butterfly beatswitches, they look really cool

Edit: I should also add, I learned to do splittime same direction stalls behind my back and I love it

Already tried the butterfly beatswitches, split- and together-time. They are creamy.

Can you break down the antispin 4x4 in description? I was honestly racking my brain over this one for the longest time, and I never could get a version below five beats and figured fewer couldn't really be done. (Actually, I forget how I managed to make it five beats. Kind of a weird number in retrospect.)