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#906350 - 09/02/10 05:03 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: T-S-A]
aston Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
As far as I know. smile

There are a whole bunch of them though.
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#907034 - 22/02/10 08:12 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: aston]
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Learned split time butterfly antispin wallplane flower turns, and carrying the Nevisoul prayer hand thingy into a windmill. Meltdown pirouettes, and a number of other turns.
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#907048 - 22/02/10 05:00 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Sister Eleven]
SpinnerofDetroit Offline
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
Oooh, Nevisoul Prayer Hand thingy, by far my favourite name for it ever in the history of ever. I learned to go everywhere with it, I love that move. I also learned to go everywhere with the huggie isolation over the head thing. Except it's not always over the head anymore for me tongue I also learned to add extra beats to it like a 4bt windmill, but it gets rid of a lot of the beauty I think.
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#907052 - 22/02/10 08:38 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
leospoi Offline
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Registered: 02/02/08
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Also seen it called beatswitch. Try it also from side to side and at a diagonal angle. it makes all sorts of interesting visual effects.

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#907062 - 23/02/10 12:56 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: leospoi]
SpinnerofDetroit Offline
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
Which one is called the beatswitch, I was never quite sure about that. I do do both of them to different spots. If it's the huggie isolation thing, than I already do that side to side diagonal thing, it feels so nice smile
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#907119 - 24/02/10 05:36 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
I think it's the prayer hand thing that's called a beatswitch.
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#907129 - 24/02/10 10:38 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Sister Eleven]
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
Ok, I was never sure what to call it. Beatswitch, lockout, Jesus hand, everybody clap your hands!, super happy fun time, or just hand thing tongue

lol But really, yay I know the name grin

Also I realized I never put it on here. I learned it quite a while ago. Not really sure how long ago, but the antispin 4x4 fountain.
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#907139 - 24/02/10 02:58 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
I never did figure out an antispin 4x4. VIDEO. NOW.
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#907140 - 24/02/10 04:42 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Sister Eleven]
SpinnerofDetroit Offline
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
haha, idk of a video made for it, when I am able to go outside and fid something to put the camera on, because I am still at a lack of tripod, I'll get that along with my fun noname waistwrap type thingy that I made up.

Also, try butterfly beatswitches, they look really cool smile

Edit: I should also add, I learned to do splittime same direction stalls behind my back and I love it grin


Edited by SpinnerofDetroit (24/02/10 04:45 PM)
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#907141 - 24/02/10 04:49 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Already tried the butterfly beatswitches, split- and together-time. They are creamy.

Can you break down the antispin 4x4 in description? I was honestly racking my brain over this one for the longest time, and I never could get a version below five beats and figured fewer couldn't really be done. (Actually, I forget how I managed to make it five beats. Kind of a weird number in retrospect.)
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#907161 - 25/02/10 05:16 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Sister Eleven]
Teamo Offline
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Registered: 22/12/09
Loc: Finland
I haven't really dwelved into the antispin 4x4 fountain whole-heartedly, but from what I've played around with the idea, I'm beginning to think it would be a lot like two antispin weaves stuck together. You know, like how the original 4x4 is just two 2-beat weaves stuck together with one of the transitions being behind the head. I don't even know if it's fully possible, but if it is, it might be a lot like that except with anti-spin weaves.

The way is came up to this conclusion was through buzzsaw fountains. It's easy to do a antispin buzzsaw fountain where both poi do four beats. The only difference between a buzzsaw fountain and a regular one (aside from the poi being inside your arms) is that in a regular one the hands go through a weaving motion. Winding on one side, opening to neutral in the middle, winding the other hand on top the on the other side, and the opening to neutral again in the middle. there is ofcourse the factor of them going behind your head, but I think that can come later once it's been figured out how to do it in general.

And because the poi are going split-time while the hands are going same-time, it automatically follows that one poi has the downbeats when the arm is on a horizontal or vertical wallplane-axis (down, left, up and right), while the other poi has the beats in between those on the diagonal lines on the wallplane. Or you could think of it as the placing of the petals in the fountain pattern. One poi is doing a 5-petal flower pointing down, the other is doing the same pointing up, mounting up to a symmetrical 10-petal flower.

So, going from those ideas and trying t figure how it would work out, I'm finding that the way one hand has to dodge the other poi in certain places feels a lot like the antispin weave, with which I'm totally not comfortable yet.

But all this is mostly me just brainstorming, and I could be horribly wrong on all of this (If I find out that's the case, I'll correct myself.. And anyone else is free to do so aswell.). I too would like to hear if you managed to get the 4x4 antispin fountain in a much simpler form than what I've been runnning into, SoD. It would be very much releaving if you did, lol..

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#907164 - 25/02/10 05:40 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Teamo]
leospoi Offline
Poi explorer

Registered: 02/02/08
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
First learn the 2 and 4 beat antispin crosser fountains, then for 4x4 antispin fountain just do a regular antispin weave fountain and keep the antispin crosser transition at the top.

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#907165 - 25/02/10 09:17 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: leospoi]
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want

Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
Ok, what I learned it as was I enter the 4bt windmill at my side, the bring it to the other side. I slowly got more and more of a circle out of the motion. The one think you should know is that unlike the normal 4x4 fountain, your hands will twist up. And while learning it your planes will be crazy. So yeah, I just learned it from doing a 4bt windmill and moving it in the antispin direction and my hands would twist up, but if you do it good it still has a nice smooth motion.
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#907191 - 26/02/10 04:20 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: leospoi]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: leospoi
First learn the 2 and 4 beat antispin crosser fountains, then for 4x4 antispin fountain just do a regular antispin weave fountain and keep the antispin crosser transition at the top.


I haven't the foggiest what an antispin crosser fountain might look like, two or four beat.
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#907192 - 26/02/10 04:23 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hm, I will get back to playing with these, then. Thanks for the hints.
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#907300 - 28/02/10 09:09 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Sister Eleven]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Finally getting my antispin turns pretty consistently. Which is pretty much the crowning achievement of my current turning intensive. At this point, if I can do it, I can turn in it.

Also getting the hang of some simple UTL stuff.
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#907464 - 03/03/10 03:23 PM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: RicheeII]
Smurf24029 Offline
Poi Master Smurf

Registered: 05/09/09
Loc: Tacoma, Washington
This weird pendulum thing. I start with a regular pendulum but then go turn it into a pendulum in the same area but different direction. Sorry for bad explanation but I can post video if anyone so pleases. But yeah its a cool little thing. I like pendulums.
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#907504 - 04/03/10 04:20 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: Smurf24029]
aston Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
Sounds worth seeing. smile
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#907515 - 04/03/10 06:38 AM Re: I've just learned - advanced move thread [Re: aston]
Smurf24029 Offline
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Registered: 05/09/09
Loc: Tacoma, Washington
I will post vid when I get home from work then.
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#907554 - 04/03/10 02:47 PM Re: The Poi "I just learned a new advanced move / combo" thread [Re: Richee]
Smurf24029 Offline
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Registered: 05/09/09
Loc: Tacoma, Washington
So yeah here the pendulum trick I was talking about earlier.

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