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#842990 - 10/02/08 04:06 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Suibom]
FireTom Offline
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Registered: 20/09/03
Loc: here and now
Factually it seems there is lots less of (classical) spinning involved as the S-shape of the staff makes it very difficult to spin and keep the staff running on it's plane.

Wonder about Contact-S...

You weld your own staff f_f? Interesting, I should learn Argon welding...
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#842991 - 25/02/08 09:05 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
fire_freaks Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
Try 1beats with curved
they're so easy with simple staffs but feel quite weird with curves

Contact.. well, I managed to do contact propellor and a fishtail, could be possible to do conveyor belt and some more vertival contact using hands only but no steves matrix ect..


What I see in general, most of moves could be done, They just feel different way, are quite unstable especialy at the beginning of practice and can hit you quite hard ))

- Konstantin

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#842992 - 25/02/08 10:38 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: fire_freaks]
zaobabdai Offline
newbie

Registered: 17/04/07
Loc: africa
Buugeng

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#842993 - 25/02/08 10:40 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: zaobabdai]
zaobabdai Offline
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Registered: 17/04/07
Loc: africa
coming soon to HoP library

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#842994 - 26/02/08 12:49 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: zaobabdai]
_Clare_ Offline
Still wiggling

Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
Hey lovely Dai!!

Well done on COL mister

x
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#842995 - 06/03/08 10:04 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: _Clare_]
Durbs Offline
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Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England


Sweet - Dai's uploaded lots of lessons to the HoP library...
Go learn.

Struuuuuuuuuuuuuugz, fancy making some props?
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#842996 - 06/03/08 10:15 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Durbs]
fire_freaks Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
Yeah, nice.
Anyone knows where could I get such a nice pair of Curves?

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#842997 - 08/03/08 11:30 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: fire_freaks]
FireTom Offline
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Registered: 20/09/03
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Well guys...

HERE'S THE LINK

Why is it Buugeng however?
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#842998 - 09/03/08 03:08 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
eggiog Offline
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Registered: 09/03/08
Yep, anyone knows where to get that Buugeng prop?

I want it hardly >_<'

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#842999 - 16/03/08 10:06 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: eggiog]
Imbalance Offline
not different, just not the same

Registered: 09/09/05
Loc: Charlotte, NC
agreed, the ones Dai uses are very pretty. Want a pair myself now. The ones from the Moschen vid aren't to bad either. I need to find someone around here who can make some of this type stuff....
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#843000 - 30/03/08 08:30 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Imbalance]
akgraphics Offline
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Registered: 25/06/06
Loc: Churchill College, Cambridge
http://www.zaobab.com/buugeng_about.html

That's where Dai sells his buugeng.

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#843001 - 30/03/08 10:13 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: akgraphics]
fire_freaks Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
nice, thanks

wow, didn't think buugeng is made of 2 boomerangs or smth like that. I guess, I'll make a pair of these for myself in some weeks.

Would be great to get glowing ones if they had such in stock. Should be quite an impressive tool, maybe even better then with fire.
You can do most of doubles spinning moves with'em but fire prevents from doing big part of slower moves, isolations. It simply reaches your hands then. Well, hope I'll find way to do it anyway soon.

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#843002 - 31/03/08 04:33 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: fire_freaks]
_Poiboy_ Offline
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Registered: 12/01/04
Loc: Raanana, Israel
damn, the shipping's expensive
I hope HOP will start selling these soon
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#843003 - 01/04/08 05:31 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: _Poiboy_]
akgraphics Offline
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Registered: 25/06/06
Loc: Churchill College, Cambridge
I was sorely tempted to get some from Dai ... it works out at £60 inc. shipiping to the UK for a pair ... if only I had a job!

I've never handled one of these, so I'm curious: Does the S-shape have to be a specific type of curve for the optical illusion to work? From Dai's videos, the curve looks like a perfect sine wave, but does it really matter? I.e. Could they be made out of two semi-circles, or any old pair of arcs?

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#843004 - 14/04/08 06:44 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: akgraphics]
Azadondo Offline
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Registered: 22/04/05
Loc: Los Angeles
To anyone who has made a set of these: How did you do it and what did you use? Did you machine them out of wood? Use a jigsaw? Or did you use metal? Or did you just tape a bunch of well trained cats together?
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#843005 - 17/04/08 09:59 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Azadondo]
mparker Offline
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Registered: 15/10/05
Loc: Houston, Texas
Ok, so I took one look at the lessons, one look at Dai's site and realized I wanted these so bad it hurt. Shot off an email to him, and had one quick phone call to the boyfriend for color consultation, and I've ordered me a set.

Mmmmmmmm can't wait!

Curse you long shipping time!!!!

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#843006 - 25/04/08 09:16 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: mparker]
akgraphics Offline
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Registered: 25/06/06
Loc: Churchill College, Cambridge
Yay I am the pround owner of a pair of yellow buugeng hurray for birthday money.

It's everything everyone who's posted above me has said they are, amazing, but insanely difficult. Once I got my head round the grip rotating in its own axis as you do the weave, it all becomes a lot more easy.

I love all the mime-type stuff you can do with these! My favorite is my big yellow curvy buugeng-moustache

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#843007 - 02/05/08 05:06 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Azadondo]
-sandy- Offline
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Registered: 12/07/04
Loc: Bristol
 Written by :Azadondo


To anyone who has made a set of these: How did you do it and what did you use? Did you machine them out of wood? Use a jigsaw? Or did you use metal? Or did you just tape a bunch of well trained cats together?



I havnt made them myself but i've had a play with the ones Strugz had made. They were aluminium tubing bent with a pipe bender and had 2 semi circles rather than the sine wave curve on Dai's.
From having a fairly short play with them i would say that looking at Dai's the sine wave is a nicer curve than the semicircle, i also found the semicircle hit me in the face a lot and was a bit large (although obviously you could make a smaller set). The illusion from the semicircle was nice though, easy to make an isolating circle with.
The aluminium tubing was ok, but fairly 'clangy' its really easy to knock them into each other and the vibrations arnt very nice. I recon wood would be a nicer material.
I've been thinking about buying some of the Buugens when i get some more cash, they look really nice.
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#843008 - 03/05/08 03:44 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: -sandy-]
Skatto Offline
Walking on whims...

Registered: 12/01/07
Loc: Eastbourne, UK
Dunno whether to get the red ones or the yellow ones.

They look amazing, the simplest double staff tricks look doubly amazing.

Will definitely have to buy a pair!
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#843009 - 13/06/08 09:29 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Skatto]
Richee Offline
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Registered: 15/01/02
Loc: Prague
I've found quite difficult and nice the way you control
the vertical rotation(actually spiral..) movement of the
staff during simple figure of 8.

Also I found quite similar tensions like with flagging,
where you intensively control the spin.

(Inclined spiralz..)

-Butterfly sweeps
-Parallel reels
-Swaps
-Fountains
-360's
-Insides

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Also next step in experiencing steve.

Steve?.. Po!,

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