#834853 - 26/07/07 02:26 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Geeza]
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Your friendly neighbourhood mad scientist
Registered: 07/05/05
Loc: Over the hills and far away
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But I like getting dizzy...  I think you're thinking along the right lines. There are two tricks I've used before (with varing success). The looking at one point thing that ballet dancers do is one. I'm rubbish at this. I believe one of the tricks is, when you whip your head around, don't jerk. Start slowly and finish slowly, because it's the sudden acceleration that screws you over. If there are any ballet dancers reading, it'd be cool to get some advice.  The other trick I learned from Tai Chi. Simply keeping aware of your body and where you're moving, and trying to minimise your movement. For instance, you can do a lot of things in wallplane, and just because your body does a full 180, doesn't mean your head needs to at the same time... Also, you could try doing less 360s. 
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#834854 - 27/07/07 06:46 PM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Invader Xan]
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Stream Entrant
Registered: 13/06/01
Loc: Melbourne
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How can you spin without getting dizzY? Try spinning around one way, then reversing it by spinning around the other way. Should equal thinks out a bit. 
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#834855 - 28/07/07 12:16 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Stone]
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HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
Registered: 04/11/05
Loc: Palmerston North
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Geeza, what you where talkin about with the head spin is a technique that is used in dancing and it takes i bit of practice but you will get it in the end.
The alterantive is to follow your dizzyness in any direction other than the floor. Use your eyes to tell you that you are upright and this should overide the your sence of balance but again it takes some practice.
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#834856 - 28/07/07 11:16 PM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: DarkFyre]
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the kicker of elves
Registered: 10/01/07
Loc: Dublin
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I don't know. i've never had that problem . . .
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#834857 - 29/07/07 02:45 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Wooktastic]
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kicking cucumbers constantly : )
Registered: 25/02/05
Loc: Dublin City Centre
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Ketamine... : ) Have you ever seen a horse fall over dizzy?
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#834859 - 03/08/07 12:37 PM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Geeza]
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journeyman
Registered: 23/04/07
Loc: Dublin,Ireland
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i find just keeping me eyes on the poi and not everything else works
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#834861 - 14/08/07 12:25 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Lizzybeth]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Written by: www.dancedictionary.com
Spotting
Spotting is one major secret to successful turns. The head stays facing one direction while the body turns; then when the head can no longer maintain its position, it turns instantaneously in the direction of the turn coming around to the original spot, or to a new spot - depending on whether it is a full turn (360 degrees) or ½ turn (180 degrees). For traveling turns, the dancer would normally spot in LOD -- the direction of travel. For stationary turns, the dancer would normally spot in the direction in which the turn would finish. The rapid head movement of spotting adds additional energy to the execution of multiple spins.
i get even more dizzy when i spot than when i don't. i think thats just cos i'm bad at it.
Also looking directly up or down while turning works quite well to avoid dizziness.
Written by: Stone
Try spinning around one way, then reversing it by spinning around the other way.
i don't know if you were joking, but this actually works.
vigorously shaking your head also works, but doesn't look very cool...
to really get your head around dizziness, why it happens, and how to stop it -understanding how your vestibular system works is important

Edited by simian (14/08/07 02:37 AM)
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#834862 - 15/08/07 05:25 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: simian]
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master of disaster
Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: New York
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spotting has never worked for me. I've spun too fast for it to even be considered, and it'd probably be dangerous if I did.
what I learned is to let your eyes relax and blur as you spin. once you're done spinning, pick a point and focus on it
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#834863 - 15/08/07 05:52 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: fNi]
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Registered: 27/05/06
Loc: leicester, uk
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i find just looking at my hands help if there in one place in front of me, other than that jus let your eyes blur and go unfocused
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#834864 - 16/08/07 11:45 PM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: fNi]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Written by: fNi
spotting has never worked for me. I've spun too fast for it to even be considered, and it'd probably be dangerous if I did.
 yeah, i'm sure those professional ballet dancers who spot have nothing on you dude.
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#834866 - 17/08/07 02:56 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: simian]
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Your friendly neighbourhood mad scientist
Registered: 07/05/05
Loc: Over the hills and far away
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Stall your head. Words to live by, if you ask me.
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#834867 - 17/08/07 03:02 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: simian]
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master of disaster
Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: New York
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Written by: simian
Written by: fNi
spotting has never worked for me. I've spun too fast for it to even be considered, and it'd probably be dangerous if I did.
yeah, i'm sure those professional ballet dancers who spot have nothing on you dude.
in competitive ice skating, you spin much faster watch something on youtube, you'll see what i mean
in the fifties or sixties, NASA used a skater, Ronnie Robertson, to study G-forces on the human body because he spun faster than anyone else.
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NASA did several tests with Robertson trying unsuccessfully to make him dizzy. They hoped that if they could figure out his secret, it would help astronauts deal with the feeling of weighlessness. But Robertson’s secret was simply learning to ignore all sensations of giddiness. (In ballet, dancers "spot" after turns, i.e. they focus on an object at the completion of a move. That isn’t possible because of the speed of spins on ice that are not always finished in a dead stop.)
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#834868 - 17/08/07 05:16 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: simian]
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addict
Registered: 14/05/06
Loc: Leeds
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Written by: simian
That is how to stop being dizzy. STALL YOUR HEAD.
and how exactly do you do this stalling of your head?
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#834873 - 17/08/07 11:35 PM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: fNi]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Written by: fNi
Written by: simian
Written by: fNi
spotting has never worked for me. I've spun too fast for it to even be considered, and it'd probably be dangerous if I did.
 yeah, i'm sure those professional ballet dancers who spot have nothing on you dude.
in competitive ice skating, you spin much faster 
And you mentioned ice skating ummmm where? i just thought you were being all like "hey man, i turn with the weave like kerazy fast!"  fair enough. Spotting while ice skating does sound a good way to unscrew your spine 
Written by: Mynci
hmm I find looking straight up helps not at all especially doing multiple jesuses with staff. if you put your later analogy to this method (the bowl of water) then surely all the water would just pour out I suppose it wouldn't slosh though
Nahh, the bowl has a lid  a more accurate analogy is a spirit level, or a spirit level in each ear to be exact.
Looking up helps because the water is sloshing around the top and bottom, and then gravity makes it settle faster when you put your head upright again, when compared to letting it slosh around the sides. That means it helps with recovery from the spin, rather than the spin itself. But thats usually where problems are.
Written by: Geeza
how exactly do you do this stalling of your head?
run about with a bowl of water. Work out how to move it and turn it while keeping it from spilling/sloshing. Or how to do really violent movements, to stops, without sloshing or spilling. It's just like stalling poi. That is the way to move your head without getting dizzy.
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#834875 - 18/08/07 08:35 AM
Re: Stop getting dizzy
[Re: Mynci]
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member
Registered: 14/08/07
Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
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Spotting! Stare at something and turn untill you can no longer keep eye contact with that whatever. Then whip your head around as fast as you can and stare at that same thing again. It takes a little practice to get solidly down when turning, but it's really simple enough. Just be sure to spot, DIRECTLY LEVEL. If you look up, you'll move backwards and if you look down you'll go foreward. Then again, if you WANT to move...have at it, lol. Spotting is the only way I've ever found to survive things like multiple pirouettes and fuete turns. Ah...I  ballet.
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