#831265 - 27/06/07 12:24 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: simian]
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Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
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Written by: simian
Ed - an antispin pattern doesn't necessarily contain isolation, but an antispin pattern can also be isolated, in a few different ways.
But in this move, I fail to see the isolation. Surely if the antispun poi was isolated, the outside circle would become irregular (is that the right word?)
therefore, no isolation = no hybrid in my opinion.
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#831266 - 27/06/07 12:25 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: simian]
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geek, level 1
Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
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 i'd call it a hybrid  caus i like the idea of driving style hybrids. but very specifically i'd call it a garthy hybrid (cause it was him i saw doing them first) - i totally agree with Simian that to call anything that has two hands doing different things a hybrid is a bit too silly. but this was discussed at length on tribes, and hybrids have been fairly well defined now.... i wish i knew what my brownian motion butterfly was....
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#831268 - 27/06/07 12:34 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: bluecat]
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Classically British
Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
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I thought, when this move was discussed several months ago (  ) there was a nice side discussion on why the antispin in this pattern is isolated... Meh, do a search, it's all there somewhere. Ed, as per usual, is wrong (just in general). Wallplane hybrid butterfly flower, with optional polyrhythm? To argue with Monkey, which is always fun, "Surely this move should be named as part of a family that deals with the effects of moving the common centre of direction of two opposite direction poi" you'd need to add "in the same direction" So...on previous nomenclature...this move would be a Goofy Polyrhythm Hybrid Butterfly Flower Or just "goofy hybrid" as a move genre 
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#831269 - 27/06/07 12:53 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: bluecat]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Written by: bluecat
i wish i knew what my brownian motion butterfly was....
when you do a butterfly then whang your hands around in loads of different directions while keeping your hands together. you were doing it lots at the BJC 
Written by: drubs
To argue with Monkey, which is always fun, "Surely this move should be named as part of a family that deals with the effects of moving the common centre of direction of two opposite direction poi" you'd need to add "in the same direction"
no, that would be redundant, as i clearly said "common centre of direction" as opposed to "their two distinct centres of direction" what you should have argued was that i accidentally said "centre of direction" rather than "centre of rotation" 
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#831270 - 27/06/07 12:56 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Durbs]
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veteran
Registered: 31/05/06
Loc: Oxfordshire
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Fun though the accurately describe the action game is  I think [Nx?]'s idea (and my hope too) was to give it a nice short name, as it is a fairly identifiable trick (and long names scare the crap out of people, and breaking it into a definition doesn't actually help picture it for most people, we you want to call the 3 beat weave 'split time wall plane 3 beat alternating crossovers' or something ?  Any more thoughts on that? (neither this move or the one I was hoping for a name for are in garthy's xmas vid sadly, I just checked)
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#831271 - 27/06/07 12:57 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Durbs]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
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splitime means what it always ment, a butterfly whos poi meet at the sides rather than top and bottom. at present, this is a splitime poly-rythum, sounds crazy but it just means at the point there the poi hit the same beat they are doing split-time. Im not sure if it can be done bf, I think the trifoil would start in a diffrent place if so... Atomic butterfly is definatly wrong, and an oxymoron  T 
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#831275 - 27/06/07 01:06 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: [Nx?]]
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veteran
Registered: 31/05/06
Loc: Oxfordshire
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yeah, I like the idea of Mercedes too, it also gives the descriptive Mercedes switch, or changeover, too, both work nicely, and are nicely shorter than 'butterfly atom' (which wasn't exclusive enough as that can be done as a flower)
And I think Eddie Izzard's got copyright on naming everything geoff 
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#831278 - 27/06/07 01:21 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Yakumo]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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MERCEDES!?!?!
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!??
THAT'S THE WORST NAME I'VE EVER HEARD
it describes the pattern created, which can be replicated by all sorts of different movements, and is non-specific to this particular variation you're discussing.

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#831279 - 27/06/07 01:24 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Yakumo]
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veteran
Registered: 31/05/06
Loc: Oxfordshire
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if anyone has 'Yoshiky vid for 2007.wmv' the (prospective) Mercedes, with changeovers, is exactly 5 min in.
I'm still looking for the butterfly antispin wipe/etchasketch/swipe thing..
and lol simian, you suggested it 
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#831280 - 27/06/07 01:52 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Yakumo]
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1 + 1 = 3
Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
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Bluecat, brownian thing... is that the butterfly and drawing a pentagram with your hands?
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#831282 - 27/06/07 02:54 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: bluecat]
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Classically British
Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
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Mercedes conjures up images of hot spanish chicks in my mind... Plus, as le singe said, you can re-create the pattern in different ways, not just with this one.
"Goofy hybrid" is short and about 83% accurate...
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#831283 - 27/06/07 03:58 AM
Re: Can we name this move? (bf anti-poly flower)
[Re: Durbs]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Durbs, what you have there is an incomplete, non-unique, inaccurate and hideously repugnant use of terminology.
That is not a name, it's a monster.
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