Whip Moves Thread!

Whip moves!

I'm going to assume you're not an idiot, this thread isn't an excuse to go out and hurt yourself to make up a new crack. I don't think I know any crack that deliberately crack towards your body, rather the crack is always directed away. Thou sometimes it will hit me or the rebound from the crack, or on the way to the crack.

Also: WEAR PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT: a hat, a long sleeved top, and glasses. Aussies would recommend a wide brimmed hat, so you can tell if it's close to your face. But the best protection is learning to crack 'softly' and not force the whip. Once your confident, and you know where the whip 'is' in the space around you, you can learn how to crack it loudly and safely.

Here's the single cracks I know (ish - I can't remember the proper names sometimes, clarifications appreciated):

The throw: Starting out from behind you, you pull your arm forward and the crack happens where you point your arm, out in front of you. (as if throwing a spike underhand to a target in front of you)

The flick: from spinning the whip in a circle, you kinda flick a crack out using a punching-esque motion and the whip keeps going in the same direction as it started out.

Cattlemans crack: A typical direction change crack, starts with the whip laying on the ground, point behind you, you bring your arm up and the whip makes a big circle, as it's going over your shoulder, your change it's direction by extending your elbow and the crack occurs out in front of you.

Coachman's Crack: A cattle mans crack but you wait a lot longer from the crack and extend your arm downwards, so that the crack is next to your ear or above your head on that side.

Really there's only two crack's I know, a throw and a direction change crack, occuring at different places, but I'll go on to describe some patterns.

Figure of Eight - a cattlemans crack, and then the back crack version the other way, with a long drag of the whip inbetween.

Volley - (also called "fast figure of eight") Like a fast version of the above, a cattlemans crack and then on the rebound there is an immediate back crack. And so on continuously. (can be high or low or horizontal...)

Cow and Calf - (also called "whoosh - bang") A throw but pulled up after the crack and using that circle to do a cattlemans crack. And so on, continuously. (can be anywhere, high, side to side, up and down or low side to side. probably back hand up and down too.)

Snakekiller: Doing continuous flicks downwards, alternating from each side of the body. (As if trying to kill a snake on the ground in front of you.)

Meg's favourate pattern: Doing a throw behind your body in wall plane, pulling it forward on the rebound into cow and calf and after the cattlemans crack doing a throw from the otherside of the body.

Tasmanian Twist: I seem to recall it being a figure of eight, then you mangle the planes and do what is essentially a cattlemans crack BTB. But it usually points a little more down than normal.

Arrowhead: Volleys, but done in a special way: Volley back on one side, volley in front, and then volley back on the otherside of your body. making a V shape if viewed from above, hence the arrowhead.

Suicide Crack: Volleys, but done with both hands on the whip, in front and behind you, like the standard volley, but this time directly in line with your body, and the whip passes in a circular motion (well it goes forward on one side and backwards on the other) around you, making you look quite insane.


and the double cracks I know: (mostly names from aussie whipcracking competitions.)

The Train:

The cow and calf, in both hands, staggered (not full split time,) with the throw (the calf) a softer crack that the cow. Done so that it sounds like a train.

The Southern Cross:

"A crack to the Front immediately followed by an under the arm crack to the back then over head crack to one side followed immediately by a crack to the other side finished with a kinda helicopter wind up to an emphasized horizontal crack about 45 degrees to the front of the first side again. 5 cracks to different points representing 5 stars in the southern cross (famous constellation in the Aussie sky - as seen on our flag). " - thanks to pyrolific

Simple weave thing:

Continuous flicks out in front of you, from both hands, in a two beat weave. (flicks alternate sides of the body.) Same can be done in the three beat weave.

The arrowhead can also be used in a weave.

toms favroit

a throw behid you that imeadatly brought forward to a cattlemans crack, produces two cracks even closer together than the volley.

coachmans crack, like a variation on the cattlemans but you pause at the top of the arc untill the whip is curled round and pointing nearly straight up before bringing hour hand down in a swift arc. cracks not far from your ear. especially cool with two whips as it looks like two curling horns.

T

p.s. meg, where them youtube whip videos at?

oh and folks, remeber to wear a hat and some glasses when prcticing, thease things hurt!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vyf3_ipygHA

that's the best one I've found...

Hooray! A whip thread- Mr Bovril will be pleased. I can do a couple of cracks, but only in my right hand- my left is a wonkey donkey.

Roll on long summary sessions where I get to play with great people and great kit

Whipping in the rain is quite sweet, the sonic boom creates nice mists that disperses in the air...

I shall be watching this thread with great interest

*goes back to re-read the descriptions to understand better*

woo hoo! whip thread! i've not long started whip cracking, got a 6ft bull whip at the moment. i can do the basic cracks, but i wanna learn some more interesting ones. and i really want to try doubles.

Meg - I think the Southern Cross isn't anything like that one you described. Southern cross as shown me by a guy that worked on cattle stations for 10 years;

A crack to the Front immediately followed by an under the arm crack to the back then over head crack to one side followed immediately by a crack to the other side finished with a kinda helicopter wind up to an emphasized horizontal crack about 45 degrees to the front of the first side again. 5 cracks to different points representing 5 stars in the southern cross (famous constellation in the Aussie sky - as seen on our flag).

hehe, whip cracking is an interesting cultural thing in Aust. Country people compete in it and some take it really seriously. Once Kate and I did a fire show at a Country Fair, and afterwards when chatting with some of the younger organisers, I told them I wanted to learn whip tricks. They said I wasnt allowed to because I'd be 'too good at it' ?? huh??

Another time I met a guy who competed, and he didnt want to teach me whip cracking 'because its something country people do' implication - youre a city boy, this isnt for you.

I've heard similar things from other juggler types who have taken up whip cracking...

tis well fun tho!

ok no more hop. exam study time.

okay cool.

I'll have to go check out the whip cracking DVD my flatmate has again, all the names have kinda blended in my head.

Yeah whip cracking is all fun and games, till you whip yerself in the head...

Well im SUPER happy to see a whip thread
Whip cracking in the wet whilst it may LOOK great is a KILLER or the whip - I wouldnt recomend!!
How to describe whip cracks!!! - As you say BovMonk - even more difficult than Poi moves - I have to be honest I just turn off!
Thats why I always salivate to find someone that can show me something!! - Pyrolific? Of course only when youve finished your studying - get back in the box GimpBoy before I get MY whips out!!
I have however seen an EXCELLENT Video made in NZ - I shall try to find the link for sales and post here
and finally - if MCP is now getting into Whips......ALL comers beware - If they were scared at your potential in Oz Josh - theyre gonna be running screaming to the hills when they see what this gyrl is likely to come up with!!!
Peas out and WhipCrack away

I've just been trawling through youtube again and been getting a little fed up of crappy whip videos.
So, I'm going to link to any that aren't completely rubbish, mainly for my own reference.
Erm, the youtube linking irritates me when there's a whole load of videos embedded into one page, so I'm cutting the url down to stop it embedding automatically. (If there's a better way of doing this, can someone let me know?).
Edit.. Decided that it's not worth the hassle of sorting out the auto embedding, so they're there to be cut and pasted now instead.

Urban Cowgirl
- youtube.com/watch?v=MkfWWyYm-5g&NR=1

Adam Winrich two handed whipcracking performance
- youtube.com/watch?v=-M-6EVXKITg

Adam Winrich two handed whipcracking the Felandy hoofbeats
- youtube.com/watch?v=_OhIMcHtq9g&mode=related&search=

Double Whip Cracking
- youtube.com/watch?v=1oait0XQ1hU&mode=related&search=

2006 Phillip bullwhip SDGI
- youtube.com/watch?v=tkILmmEev8g&mode=related&search=
(prize quote "how's does he make that sound?" "it's a whip.. that's what it does")

Bullwhip Artist Gery L. Deer - short double whip rhythm
- youtube.com/watch?v=xww0iHWz1K8&mode=related&search=

Queensland Crossover Vid
- youtube.com/watch?v=sAMT8c7g_rk

Whip Single (Chris Camp Video No.1)
- youtube.com/watch?v=ZY_Bsi-RNuk

Whip Targets (Chris Camp Video No.2)
- youtube.com/watch?v=oz7d-y1Jzas&mode=related&search=

Whip Guy Promo (Chris Camp Video No.3)
- youtube.com/watch?v=HeLp5qvCCtc

None of those links work for me....

you'll have to change the 'u' in 'utube' to 'youtube' to get them to work.

Bovril: Thou in the future I think it might be easier to add an ampersand at the end of the URL to stop it being parsed and embedded by the forum software. Malcolm (I think it was him) did state that it was only the pure youtube url that would embed. Ones with ampersands and additional parameters at the end wouldn't.

That doesn't seem to work - I've tried adding various random bits and it still ends up embedded.
I'll do some more playing around in my intro thread to try and keep this thread on topic.

Have you tried putting the links in quote brackets?

It worked above

But then how did Meg do her link ok? Her second post has the link to the video, but the video isnt in the big player thingy.

I never bother to use the ubb url tags, i just stick it in the text and expect the parseing to recognise it as a URL and turn it blue.

Hey Meg,

Maybe you can get this started in Scotland? http://www.aussiewhipmaker.com/WhipBoxing.htm

Cheers!

You'll forgive me I hope if i give that a raincheck?