#816081 - 26/02/07 08:06 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Sym]
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Stargazer
Registered: 20/09/03
Loc: here and now
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Goth, with all due respect and compassion for parenthood, but if parents are not going to change their habits for the sake of their offspring's health, nothing will. It's not about NO crap food NEVER. It's just that (my guess goes), parents are just tired of constantly battling the crappy habits that their children bring back from school or kindergarden. A bit of help from "above" might actually be beneficial... Completely  The EU will restrain car manufacturers ad's, to at least not using the terms "dynamic" (amongst others) anymore... Actually I do believe that ad's (especially with children) have a deep impact. Their (and our) minds need to be protected from all that (wrong) garbage they put into us, when watching "City of Angels" 
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#816084 - 26/02/07 10:33 PM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Sym]
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Liquid Cow
Registered: 03/09/01
Loc: High Wycombe, England
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Yeah, while I was making my first post I wasn't thinking that you were providing debunking information, more adding to the anti McDonalds stuff - my bad. *note to self* Edit posts to make sense once I've realised they're wrong, instead of just forgetting about them. Also, I never thought I'd be defending McDonalds - very strange. 
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#816085 - 27/02/07 02:33 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
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So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
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FireTom i do not disagree with you but if the government are going to do something banning the ads during kids tv isn't going to help. from my experiance of first schools and schools in general they have been pushing healthy eating for a good few years, they even get free fruit to encourage the children to try new foods. the bad habbits start in the home and stick with the kids through life. Last year i took care of a 16 year old who had never eaten 'real meals' but had lived on microwaved conveniance food all of her life. on the same lines this is is the news todayi know its harsh but i do feel that not feeding your children the healthy food they need should come under neglect. after all you are denying them with the nutrition needed for growing into healthy people, its the children in the end who suffer.
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#816086 - 27/02/07 03:54 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: faithinfire]
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Registered: 03/03/05
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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Written by: faithinfire
..and yes junk food tastes heavenly by the way
Really?
I tried a Maccas once but had to spit it out after the first bite, it was sugary soggy moosh. Nothing like a real hamburger at all! I love burgers, with real meat, salad, beetroot, crispy roll, fried onions, all the good stuff. And they still sell them at lots of places. You might pay a few dollars extra but there is simply no comparison. (I am in Oz, not USA, by the way, and we do have a lot more real food easily available)
As far as my kids were concerned, Maccas just didn't exist. It never would have occurred to me to go into one myself, certainly not to take them. The best luck was that when someone gave my daughter something from there when she was 2, she promptly threw up. Never touched it again. If any of her school friends had a *party* there she just thought it was sad and didn't bother going.
She's a pretty fussy eater all round really: likes good chocolate And green beans cooked no longer than 2 minutes yum yum.
Advertising bans? It can only help. But better to just not have commercial telly for kids at all. They can watch the occasional thing if you think it's really good for them. But why rot their brains on it in the first place? Most of it's the mental equivalent of Maccas, from the same cultural basis, even if it's outsourced to Korea or wherever those squeaky cartoons come from.
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#816091 - 27/02/07 11:41 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Stout]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 27/01/06
Loc: Wisconsin
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i like most junk food and eat such in moderation mc for lunch today
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#816092 - 27/02/07 11:58 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: faithinfire]
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Are we there yet?
Registered: 14/03/01
Loc: australia
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I heard a great quote yesterday on the radio , that asked why there is a multi billion dollar advertising industry if advertisers don't think it will make a difference to their sales obviously advertising works for a percentage of the population (but not our dear hoppers who are far too smart to be influenced by such advertising  ) I guess, advertising must work, or they wouldn't waste their money on it.. 
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#816093 - 27/02/07 12:09 PM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Ade]
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Diss, Norfolk
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Not true. A lot of the time it's about power. Often they are used to show power - papers and TV stations get a lot of money from adverts and being able to buy a full page spread and only put 1 word on it gives a clear message that they want the papers to cooperate, or that they just don't care to much and they could withdraw at any time.
I've heard of that used quite a lot.
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#816094 - 27/02/07 01:11 PM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Sym]
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Are we there yet?
Registered: 14/03/01
Loc: australia
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Written by: Sym
Not true. A lot of the time it's about power. Often they are used to show power - papers and TV stations get a lot of money from adverts and being able to buy a full page spread and only put 1 word on it gives a clear message that they want the papers to cooperate, or that they just don't care to much and they could withdraw at any time.
I've heard of that used quite a lot.
sorry sym, which bit did I write that wasn't true?
are you saying adverts are only about power over papers and TV?
and not about getting consumers to use their product?
and get the papers to cooperate to do what?
Edited by Ade (27/02/07 01:13 PM)
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#816095 - 27/02/07 01:23 PM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Ade]
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Diss, Norfolk
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Sorry, I was talking about "I guess, advertising must work, or they wouldn't waste their money on it.. ". I think they would, and do, because of the relationship between the paper/tv station and them rather than them and the consumer. Obviously not in all cases, but sometimes.
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#816096 - 27/02/07 10:33 PM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Sym]
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So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
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advertising can work yes but is getting rid of it once the damge has already been done going to make a difference?
on another note the woman who has a 14 stone 8 year old gets to find out if he is going to be put into care today. i don't think its a good idea that he does, but i do believe his mother should take more of a responsability about the situation and they both need support and help.
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#816098 - 28/02/07 06:22 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: Skulduggery]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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thank god for sanity skully! How can anything with the concepts of banning and advertising in it be bad? I mean really? I'd ban it all if I could. And then complain about ofcom being a nanny state. 
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#816099 - 28/02/07 07:08 AM
Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!*
[Re: mcp]
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So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
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i again make my point seems as though its been missed that i do not see the point in banning it during the childrens tv ads as i do not believe this will change the shopping habbits of the parents. This does not mean that i want the adverts kept in the slots. i just feel that by banning the ads just during the kids programs illustrates that some parents need to take control over their children eat rather than the children dictating to the parent. As of yet no one seems to of mentioned what is going to be replaced, i agree skully it would be great to see more ads for healthy eating, as far as i know some of the US kids tv channels have healthy mini cartoons, although i am not sure as we don't watch them (or alot of tv) I am all for protecting the children but i am also all for educating parents.
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