Junk food ads banned during childrens TV *Has The world gone mad!!*

i hope so, i still think that they are amaing at the wrong target though.

like i said they should replace them with healthy food ads

And if they do that i think they should put more programs on about where food comes from too. there was a boy in our street aged 8 who didn't know how most of the veg grew so we let him help plant some. he was shocked to see that peas grew in a pod rather than on a bush like berries.

i think it's a good idea to ban adds.i don't think it will change habbits of people who already eat crud (like me) but it will perhaps prevent some kids and/or parents from forming the habbits in the first place.

sure, other stuff needs to be done, but every little bit helps.

as to all you guys going avertising doesn't work and advertising works in drip drip effects or whatever...

*puts hand up*

advertising works on me! and suggestive selling.

i'm in the pub, i'm drinking CC and diet coke... i look up and i see a poster with carona on it and i'm like... hmm... beer... i wander over to the bar and say "i'll have a carona with lemon thanks"

Me: "i'll have a mc oz and a frozen coke thanks"
McChick: "will that be a large?"
Me: "yeah why not."


to the point where i'll be on my butt watching tv at midnight and i'll see an add for... say... a paddle-pop.. i'll think "mmm... i could go for a paddle-pop" and i'll get off the aforemetioned butt, go to my room and put clothes on over my pj's, get in my car, go to the servo, and get me some paddle-pop action.

so if that can work on my well-balenced 22-year-old mind... it can work on kids. and never discount pester-power... you see kids all the time whinging and whinging while they're out shopping with their mum... she's got a trolly filled to the brim, she's obviously been in the shop for at least an hour or two, there's this kid hanging off the side of the trolly going "i want this" "i want that" after two hours of that crap, *usually* mum gives in just to get the kid to shut up for five minutes.

wow... that was quite a rant...

well... i haven't posted in about two weeks... i'm probably about due.

That was quite the rant..and one of the best one's I've seen in quite some time.

FoxInDocs good rant

yes...those are compliments

hmmm... weird...

but thanks.

Interesting point to add to Foxy's about parents in the supermarket - some supermarkets now have "Lolly Free Checkouts" with the specific intent so that the mother than wait in the line in peace without the child saying "mummy! i want this!!!"

ok, so, i've just been in mcdonalds to get lunch (so sue me)...

now, over the past coulpe of years, macca's australia have lifted ther game significantly with the introduction of their "deli choices" range, salads and the "lean beef burger"...

now i've just gone in there and found this little pamphlet about the introduction of 9 heart foundation approved meals. they look pretty nice...

they've replaced the standard "fries and coke" with an apple, a tub of youghurt or a garden salad and a bottle of water or a glass of orange juice. The meals, as presented in the pamphlet are discounted at %15, if you order the meal with a differnant drink or minus pickles etc, no discount for you.


i, for one, am impressed.

Questions is, what is the Heart Foundation?

Sometimes organisations with reassuring names are formed by groups of companies like MacDonalds, to publish questionable data from researchers funded by these companies.

Even if it is an independant body, they can recieve so much funding from sponsors whose business interests are opposed to their message (And the sponsors get to say "We fund such and such. We're not all bad" too), that they may restrict just how truthful they're going to be, in order to safeguard that funding.

Look at health publications. The advertising may be for healthy products, but the majority of it can come from companies who are mainly known for unhealthy products. Their big advertising contract gives them a fair bit of leverage.

I'm not saying anyone in these companies is necessarily evil, it's just that big companies have a lot of people in them, and if they all do a very small something wrong - the kind of thing anyone would forgive without thinking about it - it adds up to something huge.


(The next question would be, where does the apple, salad and orange juice come from? Local source or air freighted from thousands of miles away? Organic? Fair Trade? Is the yoghurt a natural product, or is it made from what's left over from some other milk using process, with artificial sweetners and flavourings?)


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The shelf space in supermarkets is sold to food companies, so they get to put the products that make them the most money (that'd be the ones made from the cheapest ingredients) in the most exposed places.

The Heart Foundation is reputable.

I dont care either way what is on TV. Cause I feed my kid healthy food and have instilled good food values in her.

Case in point... she is only 3, and yes she does indulge in candy every so often and the very occasional fast food (she actually hardly ever eats fast food)

But when we are in the store, she doesnt ask for crap food. She LOVES yogurt, string cheese, juices, vegetable soup, fish, and especially fruit. I can ask her what she wants for desert, and say chocolate (I occasionally offer her a piece) or string cheese. 95% of the time she will go for the healthy food. And she is in incredibly smart kid who is VERY healthy.

Junk food isnt so bad every so often. But a parent needs to teach their kids that good food is better for them to eat and tastes better. And not giving in to kids when they cry cause they dont have their way works too. So I dont care if they have junk food ads on TV... my kid is my kid and I choose what she eats. Shame on the parents that dont teach their kids good eating values.

Some of you guys are very fortunate to have decent parenting skills and, it would be great if everyone had them.

But they don't, many parents lack those skills, maybe underclass parents working double jobs just to pay the bills, many of them suffering ill-health themselves cos their parents fell victim to the junk-food marketing message and fed them the crap they demanded as kids.

So, count your blessings, be proud of the work you've put in with your kids, but please reflect on the fact that, had you been brought up in the kind of disfunctional environement they were, then, statistically, you'd likely have the same kind of parent/child relationship that they do.

As far as I can see, there's only two reasons why the ads shouldn't be banned-

1. sympathy for the junk food producers-

Personally, I dont care about that, IMO, ban the ads.

2. this attitude that seems common on some on this thread 'My kids aren't susceptible to this marketing, cos I've brought them up well, therefore, no-ones kids should be susceptible, so let the ads continue and blame the parents instead.

What i think of that, is covered above.

what rougie said.

they use daily juice brand orange juice at macca's here. australian product.

but does it *really* matter where it comes from? we're talking about healthy food here. is a "free trade" apple any healthier than any other apple? as long as they're kept in appropriate conditions are vegetables from "thousands of miles away" any healthier than locally grown vegetables which have probably been kept in similar conditons for a similar ammout of time?