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#816080 - 26/02/07 07:21 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
Sym Offline
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some interesting information here.



Those are just urban myths though, not actual information about what's in McDonalds food.

I'm quite surprised that no-one who has access to the proper equipment has just gone and bought a few burgers and tested them in their spare time - if I had the right kit I know that I'd be very curious to see what's inside them.



Yes, I know that, because the title of the page is "McDonald's urban legends" and on the page it talks about how they are either not true or unlikely.



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#816081 - 26/02/07 08:06 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Sym]
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Goth, with all due respect and compassion for parenthood, but if parents are not going to change their habits for the sake of their offspring's health, nothing will.

It's not about NO crap food NEVER. It's just that (my guess goes), parents are just tired of constantly battling the crappy habits that their children bring back from school or kindergarden. A bit of help from "above" might actually be beneficial...

Completely The EU will restrain car manufacturers ad's, to at least not using the terms "dynamic" (amongst others) anymore...

Actually I do believe that ad's (especially with children) have a deep impact. Their (and our) minds need to be protected from all that (wrong) garbage they put into us, when watching "City of Angels"
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#816082 - 26/02/07 12:14 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Sym]
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 Written by: Sym


Yes, I know that, because the title of the page is "McDonald's urban legends" and on the page it talks about how they are either not true or unlikely.





Ah, I wasn't quite sure you noticed, since you linked to it as 'information', rather than 'completely fabricated urban legends'

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#816083 - 26/02/07 12:17 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
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Yep, after UCOF said

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I'd be interested in where you heard this and finding out more. Have you got any sources please? (or should that be sauces?)



so maybe I should have said "here is a page the debunks some myths" - I did read it before I posted it, you know?

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#816084 - 26/02/07 10:33 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Sym]
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Yeah, while I was making my first post I wasn't thinking that you were providing debunking information, more adding to the anti McDonalds stuff - my bad.

*note to self*
Edit posts to make sense once I've realised they're wrong, instead of just forgetting about them.

Also, I never thought I'd be defending McDonalds - very strange.

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#816085 - 27/02/07 02:33 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
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Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
FireTom i do not disagree with you but if the government are going to do something banning the ads during kids tv isn't going to help. from my experiance of first schools and schools in general they have been pushing healthy eating for a good few years, they even get free fruit to encourage the children to try new foods. the bad habbits start in the home and stick with the kids through life. Last year i took care of a 16 year old who had never eaten 'real meals' but had lived on microwaved conveniance food all of her life.

on the same lines this is is the news today
i know its harsh but i do feel that not feeding your children the healthy food they need should come under neglect. after all you are denying them with the nutrition needed for growing into healthy people, its the children in the end who suffer.
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#816086 - 27/02/07 03:54 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: faithinfire]
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 Written by: faithinfire


..and yes junk food tastes heavenly by the way




Really?
I tried a Maccas once but had to spit it out after the first bite, it was sugary soggy moosh. Nothing like a real hamburger at all! I love burgers, with real meat, salad, beetroot, crispy roll, fried onions, all the good stuff. And they still sell them at lots of places. You might pay a few dollars extra but there is simply no comparison. (I am in Oz, not USA, by the way, and we do have a lot more real food easily available)

As far as my kids were concerned, Maccas just didn't exist. It never would have occurred to me to go into one myself, certainly not to take them. The best luck was that when someone gave my daughter something from there when she was 2, she promptly threw up. Never touched it again. If any of her school friends had a *party* there she just thought it was sad and didn't bother going.
She's a pretty fussy eater all round really: likes good chocolate And green beans cooked no longer than 2 minutes yum yum.
Advertising bans? It can only help. But better to just not have commercial telly for kids at all. They can watch the occasional thing if you think it's really good for them. But why rot their brains on it in the first place? Most of it's the mental equivalent of Maccas, from the same cultural basis, even if it's outsourced to Korea or wherever those squeaky cartoons come from.
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#816087 - 27/02/07 05:58 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: newgabe]
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TheBovrilMonkey...don't think of it as defending McDonald's...think of it more as defending the world against tall tales.

Punch McDonald's into Snopes and see what comes up.

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#816088 - 27/02/07 08:09 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Stout]
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Someone's just edited the McDonalds entry on Wikipedia and added the words 'your fat because you can't stop eating' to the introductory paragraph...

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#816089 - 27/02/07 08:20 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
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someone has just removed that line
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#816090 - 27/02/07 08:29 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
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it appears to be fixed...those wiki admins work fast, especially during after school hours when most wiki vandalism occurs. But there is new. fresh vandalism in it's place. Curiously enough, my IP address is blocked from editing wiki, due to repeated vandalism. Problem is...I've never edited wiki.... The admins tell me it's due to my being on a proxy server but still it pissed me off to be "accused" of a crime I didn't commit

But hey...the McDonalds main wiki page tells me that there's a local McDonald's with a 24 carat chandelier in it...this I have to see.

In the time it took me to type this post..the vandalism I mentioned has been fixed too.

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#816091 - 27/02/07 11:41 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Stout]
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Loc: Wisconsin
i like most junk food and eat such in moderation
mc for lunch today
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#816092 - 27/02/07 11:58 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: faithinfire]
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Are we there yet?

Registered: 14/03/01
Loc: australia
I heard a great quote yesterday on the radio , that asked why there is a multi billion dollar advertising industry if advertisers don't think it will make a difference to their sales

obviously advertising works for a percentage of the population (but not our dear hoppers who are far too smart to be influenced by such advertising )

I guess, advertising must work, or they wouldn't waste their money on it..


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#816093 - 27/02/07 12:09 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Ade]
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Loc: Diss, Norfolk
Not true. A lot of the time it's about power. Often they are used to show power - papers and TV stations get a lot of money from adverts and being able to buy a full page spread and only put 1 word on it gives a clear message that they want the papers to cooperate, or that they just don't care to much and they could withdraw at any time.

I've heard of that used quite a lot.
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#816094 - 27/02/07 01:11 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Sym]
Ade Offline
Are we there yet?

Registered: 14/03/01
Loc: australia
 Written by: Sym


Not true. A lot of the time it's about power. Often they are used to show power - papers and TV stations get a lot of money from adverts and being able to buy a full page spread and only put 1 word on it gives a clear message that they want the papers to cooperate, or that they just don't care to much and they could withdraw at any time.

I've heard of that used quite a lot.



sorry sym, which bit did I write that wasn't true?

are you saying adverts are only about power over papers and TV?

and not about getting consumers to use their product?

and get the papers to cooperate to do what?


Edited by Ade (27/02/07 01:13 PM)

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#816095 - 27/02/07 01:23 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Ade]
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Sorry, I was talking about "I guess, advertising must work, or they wouldn't waste their money on it.. ". I think they would, and do, because of the relationship between the paper/tv station and them rather than them and the consumer. Obviously not in all cases, but sometimes.
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#816096 - 27/02/07 10:33 PM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Sym]
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Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
advertising can work yes but is getting rid of it once the damge has already been done going to make a difference?

on another note the woman who has a 14 stone 8 year old gets to find out if he is going to be put into care today. i don't think its a good idea that he does, but i do believe his mother should take more of a responsability about the situation and they both need support and help.
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#816097 - 28/02/07 06:14 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: GothFrogette]
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Registered: 12/08/04
Loc: Wales
 Written by: GothFrogette


advertising can work yes but is getting rid of it once the damge has already been done going to make a difference?




Advertising DOES work, and it usually works on a dip, drip, drip method or why else would companies like McDonalds spend over $600 million (US Dollars) on it per annum? Repetative in your face ads is what sells products.

I welcome the ban on junk food adverts during kids TV. I don't really understand people complaining about the Nanny State when talking about this topic. There are loads of advertising restrictions in place already that are used to limit the things that can be promoted during childrens programming. Would you want those all removed as well to get rid of this nanny state? Would you be happy to see sex phone lines advertised in the breaks between "Pocoyo" and "My Parents are Aliens"?

The restrictions of these ads won't be anywhere near the whole solution to obesity in this country. Of course parents/gardians are the people that should make sure children have a healthy balanced diet, but surely any measure, like this one, that will help stop the constant drip, drip, drip of making children believe that this junk is what they want/need to eat has got to be good.

Children change very quickly and swing from fad to fad... as seen with the "in" Christmas toy every year. Remove some of the ads that make them want the product in the first place and they will soon move onto the next big thing. If the junk food ads get replaced with more healthy food ads then maybe the children will move on to wanting the more healthy stuff. The companies will then start to change what they make as demand for products change... well, heres hoping
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#816098 - 28/02/07 06:22 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: Skulduggery]
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thank god for sanity skully!

How can anything with the concepts of banning and advertising in it be bad? I mean really? I'd ban it all if I could. And then complain about ofcom being a nanny state.
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#816099 - 28/02/07 07:08 AM Re: junk food ads banned during childrens TV *The worlds gone mad!!* [Re: mcp]
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Registered: 10/10/04
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i again make my point seems as though its been missed that i do not see the point in banning it during the childrens tv ads as i do not believe this will change the shopping habbits of the parents. This does not mean that i want the adverts kept in the slots. i just feel that by banning the ads just during the kids programs illustrates that some parents need to take control over their children eat rather than the children dictating to the parent.
As of yet no one seems to of mentioned what is going to be replaced, i agree skully it would be great to see more ads for healthy eating, as far as i know some of the US kids tv channels have healthy mini cartoons, although i am not sure as we don't watch them (or alot of tv)
I am all for protecting the children but i am also all for educating parents.
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