Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :(

Wow, I can't believe Pele is getting jumped on for critical thinking.

Patrick: I don't think comments like that help the situation.

The thing is, there are people who are insinuating that someone - who has had a horrible experience and was willing to share it with the community at large in hopes that everyone would learn from it and not spread hate - may be a liar.

Many of us, including those who have known Sparrow, are reasonably annoyed. I for one, begrudgingly accept the fact not everyone will listen, nor learn - though I'm sad that society has made us not trust even those with good intentions.

It's one thing to be skeptical but it's another thing to post and blast someone's story as "unreasonable" without having first hand experience.

I could draw an extreme example by citing "Holocaust deniers". The proof is there, you can talk to those who lived through it, yet large groups of people still deny that it happened.

I know NYC's post was made in jest, but perhaps for future discussion everyone else can all refrain from personal attacks? You know, for the spirit of community and goodwill.

You see I was hoping I could link Sparrow to these posts with the support and kind words of the HoPers as well. Instead it gets derailed...

Kael, I respect your right to have your own opinion. Just like Pele.

Cheers!

And it is your right to have yours.

Am I allowed to say cheers? I think they told me it was a european thing

Why assume NYC was jesting? I just respect he has the guts to say it. And Antti.

Cos NYC frequently jests?

Not that I thought he was this time. I believe this time he was seriously opinion expressing.

When I read this story I thought it was sick and heart breaking.
Of course the thought crossed my mind as to "maybe it's not true", but regardless I think sending out love and compassion is much more important than proving otherwise.

I don't think it was a hoax. What would be the point in that?

Getting into arguments over whether this is a hoax or not isn't helping anything.

my heart stopped a couple of times while reading that, OMG, i cant believe that these people exist, maybe im ignorant or something, but im stunned!

Woah people chillout, you realize a life has been taken here?
no matter which way it happened, someone died, wtf does it matter how, or who`s fault it is!
chillout, he came here with a story, not a law, you dont have to rebel...

what a horrible thing to happen, my condolences to sparrow and his missus...

i think theres a need to question these days purely because we never know from the media if what we are being told is the truth, and that stretches to the internet too. but regardless of whether it is true or not (i believe it, but wish it wasnt true..) you cant retaliate to these people with hate it just makes them more twisted..

and c'mon guys difference of opinion and debate are cool but why lash out at folk? i think both the believers and non believers of this story are equally entitled to their own thoughts on this matter, but both could be portrayed in a nicer manner?

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I've already stated my thoughts on this topic.

Whether or not you believe the story to be real, the best thing to do is offer condolences and love.
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

Well said Jo, I agree entirely with that sentiment.

hmm. i can see some inconsistencies, but none that make me say 'that could never have happened'

what i can't see is a reason for saying this if it's not true.

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i dont think it does matter. Kael wanted to show them this thread to show how many of us out here felt their pain.

I think it would have been lovely to have a thread full of love and support. And if you can't bring yourself to send good wishes then sometimes it's best not to say anything.

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The only thing I'll keep is, it's not going to help anyone if you discuss how real someone's grief is. None of us that have posted so far know Sparrow, or the guys who allegedly made his wife lose the baby. I think it's more than a bit morbid discussing the story like it's been done in this thread.