Twirlers and Entertainers Needed in Melbourne, NOV 2006

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*snip* a couple of EXTREME jugglers, *snip*

UCOF's almost certainly an extreme juggler, but you'll have to provide a mountain, a door and a half, 47 feet of rope and 3 goats if you're after EXTREME juggling.
He wasn't allowed to take his EXTREME juggling equipment on the plane y'see

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"Those who walk in Love and Trust, shall grow in Peace and Honor"

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I would like to encourage some amateur twirlers interested in doing the show for FREE / to gain experience

Here we go again.

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Victorian Pool and Spa Associations Gala of the Year. A prestigious event featuring spectacular water front veiws and gormet dining. You'll be impressed by the level of sophistication and class....


Wages will be negotiated depending on the number of hours and experience...

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I would like to encourage some amateur twirlers interested in doing the show for FREE / to gain experience

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an up close fire experience

you are putting the spectators at risk from a) being sprayed in fuel b)serious injury or c) possible death.

Well, I suppose if you dont want to hire professionals who will make the specators remember what they saw, you could always hire amatures who would make the spectators remember how someone got seriously hurt.
But you can tell them not to worry as you didnt have to pay the performers anyway.



Ok, apparently SPASA is a "not-for-profit organisation" which "is made up of pool builders, manufacturers, suppliers, retailers, technical servicemen, sub-contractors, installers, consultants and other allied trades"

Hmmm.. its seems one of you have the dates wrong perhaps?
"Pool & Spa Expo is on again Feb 2007
Annually held at the Melbourne Exhibition and Convention Centre Southbank.
2nd - 4th February 2007"

Unless they are having one now, and one again in Feburary because everyone needs an excuse to get in a hot tub with hot chicks in bikinis
Or im just getting galas confused with expos?

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"organisations who blatantly have the money to pay for peoples time"

I have a contact in the company that asked if I could assist with locating a couple of fire performers in Melbourne. I myself had only had a month or so experience when she first saw me twirling which caught her interest. Being relatively new to Fire Dancing I was very happy to stumble upon this website, providing a means to shop, chat and meet new people. So when she asked if I could investigate on her behalf I thought “No problem, I will put a post up and see the responses I get”

Initially I was informed that the performers would be paid for their time. Hence my first post. However, since recently sitting down with the organisers to the discuss budget, I was informed that the quotes I had received were well outside of this.

For this reason I rectified my initial post to state:

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"twirlers interested in doing the show for FREE / to gain experience "

This does not LIMIT people responding to AMATEUR’s, rather, people that enjoy performing and are happy to donate their time. I know that a number of people that have responded have a number of years experience with group or individual acts. For these people the LOVE to perform is sometimes greater than their NEED for money.

I myself will be performing on the night. With only a few months experience twirling , my first aid Cert and fire safety training, you have to start somewhere. And I hope that this gig will provide an opportunity for people who have been wanting to put their practice to use and entertain people, but not wanting to do it as a professional career.

In response to your to your slander:

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"you are yet to answer my question about whether or not fuel will be provided by you, yet you answer my other questions"

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"Fire blankets and extinguishers will be provided on site for safety requirements. Currently looking further into a medical team or St John Team."

So you want to know what I REALLY WANT…

Fire Performers interested in donating 30mins – 1hr of there time. To perform @

Watermark Bar – Melbourne Docklands
November 10th 2006: FYI - the Spa EXPO has NOTHING to do with this GALA!

Out door, standing venue. Performers have the option of performing one or two gigs:

Join us @ 9pm for a 15-30 min show, then enjoy some finger food and live band before starting the Finale @ 10:15pm for another 15-30 min show.

Or Alternatively, come along at 10pm to join us for the Finale of the night for a 15-30 min show. Before the venue turns into a night club at 11pm.

A meeting will be scheduled prior to the event for performers to meet at the venue to familiarise themselves with the floor layout and size. Firewater, and safety equipment will be provided on the night. Finger food and non alcoholic beverages will also be available for entertainers.

I appreciate that for professional performers time is money. So I apologise for any inconvenience my first post may have caused. For future reference I will be sure to have all of the info before I jump online.

For those of you who feel this event is Destined for DANGER and DISASTER feel free to join UmbiliciformCraterOnFace’s campaign against it!

But for those of you who have been waiting for a break, here’s your chance to put that practice to use. Not professional, but confident? Send me an email jade.ferriere@hotmail.com

Finally, Thank you to all who have responded. I apologise if I have not gotten back to you personally, I am working my way through the emails slowly but gradually.

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"those who walk in Love and Trust, shall grow in Peace and Honor"

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SPASA VIC is a NON for PROFIT Organisation - Not a high turn over, corporate organisation as you so diligently put it:

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"organisations who blatantly have the money to pay for peoples time"

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In response to your to your slander:

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"you are yet to answer my question about whether or not fuel will be provided by you, yet you answer my other questions"

I responded to your question on the 16th of October:

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"Fire blankets and extinguishers will be provided on site for safety requirements. Currently looking further into a medical team or St John Team."

....and the fuel?.... like I originally asked?
I reminded you to answer about the fuel too, seeing as you had answered about the safety equipment, and the St Johns people.

Thirdly:

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Firewater, and safety equipment will be provided on the night.

So you go on to casually drop it into your reply, but not where you answered the other questions.

Fourthly:

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For those of you who feel this event is Destined for DANGER and DISASTER feel free to join UmbiliciformCraterOnFace’s campaign against it!

I have no problem with your event, nor to I think it is destined for "DANGER and DISASTER" in fact, I wished you the best of luck with it:

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I hope it all goes well for those of you who chose to participate, if you do indeed choose to. I just urge you not to let people take advantage of fire spinners like we usually are.
Good luck!

Fifthly:

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For these people the LOVE to perform is sometimes greater than their NEED for money.

Companies assume fire performers will donate their time for free because of their genuine love for the art. This happens time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.
I dont need money. Thats why I DIDNT get a working holiday visa when I decided to visit Australia for two months. This is a holiday.

Sixthly:

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Thank you for your ever experienced words of wisdom

Well, my five years and a half years of spinning and performing beats your

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Newbie to Poi, the site and the community

so you could do well to listen to those more experienced than you. I do when they are talking as I might learn something very useful to me.

And lastly while Im on a roll:

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In response to your to your slander

Well.. technically, what I did was defamation that is, "when a person publishes to a third party words or other matter containing an untrue allegation that is damaging to the individual's reputation." (http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights...en_libel_.shtml )

Things written on the internet, especially on an internet forum like this are neither Libel, nor slander, as Libel ("publication is in a permanent form - e.g a book, magazine or film" (posts can be deleted/ edit and thus are not permanent), and Slander: "in a transient form - i.e. speech" (obviouly this is text)

But hey, Im not pedantic, and as your repuation wasnt actually damaged, if I continue to be as technical as my spinning, what I didnt was neither defamation, nor libel, nor slander

To summarise: All I want is for performers to be paid, regardless of their level of experience. Companies saying its not in their budget is pure nonsence. If you want the service, you have to pay for it. Like prostitution.

*puts his hands down the front of his pants and wedgies himself to ecstasy*

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If you want the service, you have to pay for it. Like prostitution.

HEY I already made that joke on the other thread !!
a whole two minutes before you did too. Yay me, that makes my day

*must be a sad day*