3 seperate styles of staff twirling

jason garfeild is very good juggler but a first class muppet if you ask me,he slags people off for fire juggling saying it is easy.i would love to see him do his five club routine at night with fire clubs..........not a chance in hell he would make it,
also if the garfield quote is a cheap shot at firestaff jugglers well the sticks he refers to are an old juggling prop very similar to a small thin juggling club and not evenly balaned long fire staffs such as annti uses

mcp is mastering a prop impossible?surely victor kee is a master of ball juggling as ronaldinio is a master of keepie uppies?

But anthony gatto is surely better at some things than victor kees? So for victor kees to be a master he would have to be better than anybody at everything surely? And for anthony gatto to be a master he would have to be the same. He would also have to have mastered all the tricks nobody has invented yet.

Of course you could start qualifying the mastery that victor kees has. But then it's not the hardcore definition of mastery simian and me seem to have settled on.

"i would love to see him do his five club routine at night with fire clubs..........not a chance in hell he would make it"

I have absolutly no disbelief that Mr Garfield would be able to do it. He would practice until he could do it without dropping before he showed anyone though.

ucof my point exactly fire juggling is harder
mcp.................your right as usual
but victor will always be a master in my eyes.............................................he's my hero

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a link to some amazing drawings

I've totally won this argument with simian...

Can we discuss style of contact now? And styles of spinning? That would be more interesting... And styles of spinning on the ground, and styles of throws, and styles of geeky ugly spinning...

those with stlye meg - dont need to talk about it





whoop whoop - im off to PLAY

don't be a retard strugz. If there's ever to be any interesting discussion here in the staff forum, somebody has to start it... generally a total noob. But I was trying to break that trend.

oh yeh.....

my apologies, i never was any good at interesting discussion, but on a side note funny you should call me a retard as on one of my projects im running at the moment i am working with a guy named:

Geofrey Tard



Unbelievable parents

that's harsh!

We have a guy here who's changed his last name from elcock to williams. Understandable.

<slap> for offtopicness.

don't talk about your style then strugz... talk about the different styles you know / have seen...

Ok - getting on topic for a second:

as far as styles go, i personnaly believe that every spinner does have there own style - but it is not something that is distingtive until they start putting moves together.

I think this is because most things you learn - you learn static. Its when you start "moving" that your style develops.

I have spent alot of time studying contact staff over the years and it certanly has styles of sorts.... seporate from stand alone moves.

I feel that my style of staffing is very much based around "line, body movement" if im doing a "performing spin" then all of my movement follows that line to ensure the crowd see what i want them too.

This i find neatens up planes of contact and spinning alltogether.

However when practicing or playing i tend to loose this style and go for a more 360 random plane type approch, this is more for my own exploration of moves.

Once ive found things that work - then i try to adopt them to the performance style that i like to show off

make sense?

I may have just blabberd bullsh1te - but you pulled it out of me

So i guess what im saying i dont think styles are seporate sections of moves at all - i think they are a way you spin:

A - for yourself
B - for your surroundings
C - for the limits your body naturaly puts in place.

Now stop me making discussion, i liked being silly

You're lucky, you get to go to play today or tomorrow or whatever, I get to go on friday night, so I have a week of work and boredom that I need an interesting discussion to think about...

I think everybody has their own style, but some people have more 'style' than others..

I think you can develop a style based on what movements you do, or a style based on movement, on a style based on well both. Maybe on other things too I don't know. I know I use the steve as a base move usually, doing one to pass to my otherhand or if I can't think of anything better, and sometimes trying to work other tricks in and out of it. I also usually never do any non symmetric movements if I can help it, and If I can't I like to balance it out by doing the other direction version. I might have a style of movement, but I don't know, I don't film myself spinning that much..

I almost never disregard planes. if I'm practising, I might use a crappy plane to aid my learning, but try and straighten it out. I don't generally just decide to keep going if my planes go to [censored]. I usually correct them. or curse.

planes while performing then aren't an issue. thou style while performing vs style while spinning for pleasure is a good debate in itself.

I would generally be the opposite. I know the audience generally doesn't give a todgers about planes so I can basically do whatever looks cool or will make them go OoooooOOooo. It's still dependent on what I want them to see, but sometimes I want them to see an atomic pattern, and sometimes I just want to do an outrageously long contact movement going through various planes.

thou for performance, and movement in general I really want to get a mindset whereby I thik about the circles the staff is making around me, combined with my body movement, rather than tricks on their own or movement on its own or circles on their own. I don't generally think about the circles at all.

3 styles of staff = good, bad and ugly

strugz...dude you are all 3

Dude that was actually funny

thanks...I think

you two aren't arguing about anything any more.
you've descended into just spouting random crap about how rubbish the other's opinions are

it was obvious from the beginning that youn were both wrong but it was funny back then.

its beginning to hurt my teeth watching you trying to bolster your weak cases over and over with little more than abunch of rhetoric.

personally, i agree with strugz

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Geofrey Tard

at least they didn't name him leo...


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