3 seperate styles of staff twirling

er, tim... you've just totally misread that post.
"drop her staff every other move while spinning"

This fits in totally with what i see with staffers everywhere, particularly people who started learning recently. Over reliance on contact, no idea how to twirl nicely.

And all you lot very keen to keep it that way for some reason

i'm not saying T&B or mcp can't twirl, cos they both can. They don't, but they can. But that don't mean that all the people who are copying all their contact moves can twirl too.

ah whatever, i'll carry on over here doing me own thing, as per usual. But the state of modern staff makes me very sad

i'm with the monkey on this one - contact does not teach good spinning by proxy.

from looking around me, contact-only spinning seems to encourage 'messy' planes i.e. planes chosen to make the move easier to perform rather than planes that are common to both contact and 'normal' spinning that tie everything in together.

i believe that if you don't spend any time actually twirling for twirling's sake, your regular spinning will most likely suck.

i admit that i may be biased...]

i don't do no contact stick and i only get really excited about it when it has super tight timing and planes

doubles fishtail isolations still make me smile though.


cole. x

You need a little bit more than the figure of eight, but then really is there any other spinning movement?

I love my blinkered view.

If you want to make normal spinning interesting or hard add dance and movement to the mix. Otherwise it just isn't. (hard that is, it's interesting for me, but I doubt for anybody else.)

There are some interesting throws and isolations and anti-spin stuff, but that isn't 'normal'.

throws: pretty limited with one staff, after a while you have to add prefixes like BTB, anti-spin, pirouette to make them interesting. Or become a baton-twirler.

fingerspins: Well, after you can do it both ways, it's pretty much doing it at all angles of your arm and doing it with your arm moving. At which point you can back to spinning modifiers like: anti-spin isolated and more importantly: dance + movement. It doesn't interest me to just see somebody fingerspin. It's not hard, I learned it, and I couldn't do it when I was a child. One beat fingerspins would be pretty weird and pointless. Anti-spin ones are just a question of arm stamina.

spinning: After you've got the basics, there not much left to learn: supposedly technical stuff like one beats, anti-spin and triple spins. which are still pretty easy. and then we're onto movement, making nice patterns and dance. Which is all non-technical, non-discussed and not really something you post about in I learned a new move.

contact: A wee bit hard.

So I went a wee bit ranty there.

The main point is, you can't really post about weird dance / movement / combo things you learned in the new moves thread. It's a) not a thread about that and b) usually a part of your style and not something that other people can learn easily or indeed should learn. It's your style after all.

fair enough I did miss read that post but I'd still go and have a look at Winter of spin cos it's cool.

Personally I wouldn't say I don't spin normally I'll do 5-10mins spinning and warming up then an hour in contact but combining it with different and hopfully resonalby interesting spinning combos to join it up. Also for most burns I try and spin without contact for bits of them and every so often do a full burn spinning a fast and controled as possible. I'm not saying am not a contact junky but that cos I don't get enough insperation from other part of single staff not to be.

plus the moden state of staff spinning make me

i dont get how you would start learning contact stuff without learning spinny stuff, ive only been doing staff bout 6/7 months and im jus gettin to stage when im comfortable with most freehand spinny moves and beginning to get there with contact

i dont really see why you'd learn one style and not others cos surely its jus all the same, different ways of moving with the staff

woah this thread is kicking ass

i agree




No seriously - i love spinny spinny stuff, i really do, but like t&b i get way more satisfction out of contact. Reason being i think is that i spent 2 solid years doing spinny spinny, in understand body movement and plane control..............

because of this learning process i believe its made my contact alot tighter than it could be - say if thats what i tried to learn first.

The state of staff today doesnt make me happy or sad, i mean it could do with a clean as its covered in black soot and perhpas the grip is coming a little loose but regardless of how i treat it or what i do with it, it will still be my staff



As for the last few pages ranting about contact - yeh because at the moment the peole posting in the staff moves section happen to be exploring contact for themselves............ i dont think that they are stopping any spinny spinny staffer posting here........ [censored] i mean start a new thread like, or do a search and find that most spinny spinny stuff has already been talked about

not taking into account stuff in simians head as his antispinny stuff is the shizzle......... but hey rather than write a post here complaining about it - start a new topic with some NEW spinny spinny stuff

As from what i can see the contact being talked about is groundbreaking stuff?

people always need something to b*tch about

strugz - my mate seye met u at gnomelands, he also told me you've come up with the first full doubles contact move???

oh and the reason i love doing contact, cos i feel like such a jedi, but the jedi path is full of things that dont make u feel quite the same way lol

oh i know not to believe everything seye says lol

and you may feel more power with the darkside but the jedi path is ultimately more fruitful lol

i never have been a fan of fruit........ well apart from bananas perhaps



You know - i think i know your father

I think I'm going to start doing contact teddy cos there is sod all else you can do with them

uberarrogance kicks arse!


the problem here is that one object is blatently not enough to keep your gargantuan minds occupied.

if you insist on restricting yourself to just one object, you have to resort to funky manipulation, dance or bodyrolls.

simon has chosen the first, meg has chosen the last.

i like to watch both but find it amusing that, like me, neither of them can do the second.

as a bit of friendly advice, if you want more scope from the spinning side of things either add another stick or better yet, get yourself some one-ended flexi sticks and swing them around instead.


cole. x