#732887 - 12/05/06 11:14 AM
Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
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newbie
Registered: 12/05/06
Loc: United Kindgom
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Hi all, I am in urgent need of some help here. I am blind and performing is what puts food in my stomach and feeds my dog. Today after I had finished performing and was drining some tea someone came and stole all my equipment light staff glow poi, Fire poi and just a standard set of warmup poi  and light up juggling balls. I am unable to make my own poi due to my lack of sight. So if anyone out there has any juggling/poi they no longer need (I dont care how old and batterered.) If anyone is willing to donate any equipment I would be extremely grateful. I will pay postage or whatever necessary. Cant pay much i am sorry.  I thought I would ask te online community for help as a last resort. Thankyou Rosita Also I was thinking if i can finmd a bunch of like minded people maybe we could do a practice session on clapham common once a week. Anyone interedted?
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#732888 - 12/05/06 11:48 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: FieryFireWorld]
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Devil May Cry
Registered: 31/10/05
Loc: Manchester / London
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WHAT!!!!! whoever stole your equipment is so heartless! I can't believe I'm hearing this  you can have my furry poi as soon as I get back to london whenever theres a clapham meet you can have them there and then....if you can wait I need to rewick my fire poi and then u can have those too. sorry to hear this happen and I hope you and your dog are ok.
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#732890 - 12/05/06 01:19 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: FieryFireWorld]
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Devil May Cry
Registered: 31/10/05
Loc: Manchester / London
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bah il come to covent garden  i go there every sunday besides I need to test out my Trafalgar Square perimeter theory  with my staff 
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I give hope to others but I keep none for myself.
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#732891 - 12/05/06 01:27 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Sixth]
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newbie
Registered: 12/05/06
Loc: United Kindgom
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Well as of 5pm today I am no longer performing due to lack of equipment. I dont even have my warm up poi. (Thr poi I use to warm up with. UMMm Trafalger Square perimeter (Dodgy) They seem to jump on anyone who even looks like they are going to perform near there. Have tried pushing the boundries. Thats is a no go area for any kind of performer. Unless you have enough money to buy a licence. If you use Yahoo we can talk directly on the messenger. I wouldnt try Trafalger Square they have been arresting and fining performers.
Rosita
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it.
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#732893 - 12/05/06 03:16 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Sixth]
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
Registered: 04/08/04
Loc: Staines
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I cant belive your poi werte stolen, evil, sorry I dont have any to donate though. However I think you get less hassle if you spin/juggle fire on the south bank along the river, ebtween waterloo and the national theatre
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An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
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#732894 - 13/05/06 12:08 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: FieryFireWorld]
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the henna lady
Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
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*moderator hat off*
Ummmmm....while there are dozens and dozens of us on this bb who have had our gear stolen, and we can all attest that it really, really sucks rocks, I am attempting to figure out what being blind has to do with it?
I don't mean to sound heartless, but I really do fail to see the point in mentioning that. I don't see how it makes a difference and it bothers me that it was even brought up as it doesn't make the suckiness of what happened more severe.
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Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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#732896 - 13/05/06 05:32 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: maus]
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newbie
Registered: 12/05/06
Loc: United Kindgom
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Maus is correct Pele people take advantage of me regularly because of my lack of sight/Blindness. According to someone who saw what happened the person walked up picked up my bag with my equip in and my staff and walked off. By the time one of the other performers realised he had gone. (He probably didnt even know what was in the bag) Many times people try to pass me forged notes ( In the sense "Can you change this into coins for me?") or other things bacause they know I cant tell. I am fed up with being taken advantage of. That is why the comment. Also seeing as my skills are my main source of income (I am a musician also) It very annoying as i am living on the breadline. Thanks for your kind words everyone. Rosita
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it.
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#732897 - 13/05/06 08:48 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: FieryFireWorld]
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remembers when it was all fields round here
Registered: 27/02/03
Loc: in the works... somewhere...
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Written by: FieryFireWorld
I am unable to make my own poi due to my lack of sight.
I think this is also another very relevant point in mentioning being blind, Pele
I think I've got a few spare bits and bobs which I'd be more than happy to send to you if they'd be useful to you but please don't worry about paying for the cost of postage. I may even be able to bring them to you if you're based in or near London as I've been thinking of visiting later this month.
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#732898 - 13/05/06 12:15 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Spanner]
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the henna lady
Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
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Really?
I know someone who is blind who makes poi.
I also know a man who spins poi and is in a wheelchair.
There was no relevance to it for me.
I also know that Rosita has been mentioning that she is blind in most posts aside from this one in several threads, and that it this is not isolated.
I also know performers who are sighted who have had people walk away with their stuff right in front of them, literally one was on a stage, someone walked up and took his stuff and the audience, despite him asking did nothing to stop the dude.
It still has absolutely nothing to do with it to me.
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Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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#732899 - 13/05/06 12:34 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Pele]
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newbie
Registered: 12/05/06
Loc: United Kindgom
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Ther Other reason I mention my lack of sight is because I am trying to find other blind performers and start a group. I already teach blind kids. There has to be more people out there. I trapeze also and juggle also tight rope but I am looking for other people with the same skills. Thanks
Rosita
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it.
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#732901 - 13/05/06 10:23 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Spanner]
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playing the days away
Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
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Written by: pele
I don't mean to sound heartless
Strange because it's seem that you took your mod hat off just to be so. Its nice to see moderators hats coming off sometimes, but often it seems to only be when they want to be mean. 
Written by: Pele
I also know that Rosita has been mentioning that she is blind in most posts aside from this one in several threads, and that it this is not isolated
So what? 
It's not exactly hard to see why she's mentioned it here, I think
Written by: Fireryfireworld
I am unable to make my own poi due to my lack of sight
sums it up quite clearly.
It's great your mate is able to do it without sight and maybe in future this lassie will be able to too, but right now she can't and can't earn performance money without equipment. Perhaps some suggestions or info from your friend to help her learn to make fire poi to the quality standard required would be more appropriate instead of belittling her disabilities or lack of poi manufacturing knowledge in the thread. The first time I made fire poi it went horribly wrong, I wish someone had given me decent instructions at the time and I can see just fine.
Perhaps a quick reminder of HoP's guidlines
Written by: HoP
* Is it the Truth?
* Is it Fair to all concerned?
* Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
* Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
Your post doesn't seem to cover those, but it could have easily been constructive instead of critical given your friendships and knowledge of fire equipment.
FireyFireWorld you can find info about the clapham meets HERE the first post for general info, later posts for exact info. I hope you find something soon.
I could donate you one poi, as I had one stolen and got left with the other and I replaced it with a new pair. PM me for details. I'll see if I can get it to someone who can deliver it to Clapham. It's a monkey fist on ball chain.
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#732902 - 14/05/06 11:48 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Dunc]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 31/12/04
Loc: in the trees
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i know i don't post much on the help thread but............ pele you do seem a bit harsh i know i'm not the greates person to point this out but give the woman a break please
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#732903 - 14/05/06 12:26 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: alien_oddity]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 10/07/05
Loc: Preston
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Im with pele on this one really, and ya know erm you cant allways beleive everything you hear from people on the internet, I'll say no more on the subject hmm hmmm hmmmmm.
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'Time goes by so slowly for those who wait...' - Whatever Happend To Baby Madonna?
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#732905 - 14/05/06 10:30 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: {anthrax}]
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Diss, Norfolk
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You never do that do you anthrax? I'm shocked that some of you feel you need proof of this. Why? Do you need proof that I live in Cambridge? Or that I lost my poi last weekend? Or that I've not had any tea today? Isn't someones cry for help enough? I'm actually quite sad that you people are saying what you are. 
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#732906 - 14/05/06 10:36 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: {anthrax}]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 28/08/02
Loc: sheffield
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Written by: Brit_Joe
Im with pele on this one really, and ya know erm you cant allways beleive everything you hear from people on the internet, I'll say no more on the subject hmm hmmm hmmmmm.
Of course, from the perspective of posting on an internet forum, it is entirely possible for a person to claim they're blind when they're not.
However, it's also entirely possible that they are exactly as they say they are i.e. unsighted and, in that situation it's not a nice welcome to the community to be basically called a liar.
At the end of the day, all she's requesting is a set of poi, whatever the circumstances, it's hardly worth a personal attack is it?
Written by: anthrax
We have absolutely no proof of the aforementioned impairment, its just one persons word against the next....
Look Now please don't come begging for free things off the community.
IMO, that's out of order (you've got no proof she's not telling the truth and, to be honest, in this situation I really don't think that she needs to prove to anyone that she's blind) and I've reported it to the mods because you've basically accused a newbie of begging, which is, IMO, offensive.
FieryFireWorld, despite the 'welcome', stick with it- as you'll see from other replies on this thread, we don't all have presumptious and hostile attitudes here.
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But you can make the Bastard work for it."
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#732907 - 14/05/06 10:56 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: {anthrax}]
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playing the days away
Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
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There's no proof so we should call her a liar....jees nice attitude guys Lets hope next time you need something you don't try to rely on a strong community such as HoP for help. Maybe she isn't blind and if it should come about that that is true and we're being mislead (as will certainly happen when she goes to the Clapham meets and folks are introduced to her) then please feel free to say "I told you so" and rub my face in it. In the meantime I'll try not to single out individuals on this forum for personal abuse and take them at their word until I have good reason to beleive otherwise. Friendship and community spirit are one of HoPs many plus points that set it aside from many other online communities. Written by: Antrax
Now please don't come begging for free things off the community
What?? Since when do you issue instructions on behalf of everyone on here?
Joe, Antrax, Pele (in non mod mode) if you don't want to help someone who's posted a help topic in the help forum then just resist the urge to type a reply, it's quite simple really. Your silence will speak volumes
Pele if you think someone is abusing the trusting nature of the many folks on here then put your mod hat on and stand by your convictions, find some evidence and continue in the profesional manner we're accustomed to from you.And if anyone else thinks that Rosita is abusing the nature of folks on here press the report button so someone who runs the place can check it out properly. There's no need to act aggressivly towards an individualwhen you have no evidence or reason to beleive otherwise.
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#732908 - 14/05/06 11:20 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Dunc]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 10/07/05
Loc: Preston
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The only reason I posted was because your all taking an offensive side to peles orrigional post, which isnt offensive and from what I can see carefully written. I didnt call Rosita a liar I never said in my post 'I odnt bleeive you', im just stating a simple fact that there are no garentees with the internet, just to try and point out that pele has a good point and theres no reason for anyone to side agaisnt her for spekaing her mind on this subject.
Now one wheel I didnt launch a personal attack at all, and if I knew you more ide say I was hurt you would jump to such a harsh conclusion. (but I dont mind that much anyway lol)
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'Time goes by so slowly for those who wait...' - Whatever Happend To Baby Madonna?
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#732909 - 14/05/06 11:31 PM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Igirisujin]
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remembers when it was all fields round here
Registered: 27/02/03
Loc: in the works... somewhere...
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Written by: {anthrax}
We have absolutely no proof of the aforementioned impairment, its just one persons word against the next.
Written by: Brit_Joe
Im with pele on this one really, and ya know erm you cant allways beleive everything you hear from people on the internet, I'll say no more on the subject hmm hmmm hmmmmm.
If you've actually heard everything from Rosita on the internet - which can be found by a quick Google search - don't you think that if Rosita is pretending to be blind, she's going to an awful lot of trouble just to receive:
Written by:
juggling/poi they no longer need (I dont care how old and batterered.)
???
I'm also shocked and saddened about the hostility upon this thread
The majority of the attitude of HoP is much more positive than this, Rosita, and I'm so sorry that your first experience of the community has been of the negative. I hope it doesn't discourage you from coming to Clapham or any other gathering to meet us
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#732910 - 15/05/06 12:30 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Spanner]
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Diss, Norfolk
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Rosita, if you are blind (I'm not questioning it) then I guess you are using a screen reader? Or do you have soemone to help you post on forums like this that may not be great for you to hear?
Either way, I want to make sure that there are many people sending you hugs though emoticons. They don't have any alt tags so you may not ahve any way of knowing what it means. Just thought I'd let you know, and add my own...
*hug*
Oh, and Joe is right, not everyone on these forums is nice, and i'm sure there are some who can't be trusted. However, I (and most other people here) like to think of people as being nice until the point the find out otherwise.
Edited by Sym (15/05/06 12:32 AM)
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#732911 - 15/05/06 01:11 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Sym]
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member
Registered: 11/04/06
Loc: Utrecht
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Hi guys,
when i saw this post i was also thinking about somebody maybe just lying about being blind to get some poi. i dont think that that shows my bad character, its just becoming normal (after some experiences of spam, viruses, "poor" people that go for some sushi, after begging for money on the street) not to believe everything you hear or read in the internet, but serious, i would have never thought about really accusing her in this thread.
because if you are right, ok - you were right - thats all, nobody gets anything positive out of this experience, but if you are wrong you just hurted somebody a lot, without even having a good reason.
i would feel very bad, if somebody called me liar and i was in such situation and only telling the truth.
some years ago i didnt find my mp3-player anymore, searching like crazy in my room for over hourse.
the day before a friend of me had been there (a guy with quite a bad reputation along parents), i also left him alone for some time.
so i thought that maybe he had been stealing it.
i was angry with him for a whole week without even telling him why. damn, luckily i never told him that! its so easy to brake a good friendship because of such stupid [censored].
...one week later i found the mp3thing in my jacket - it had been there for all the time...
never, never, never call somebody a thief, a liar, whatever, without being totally sure.
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#732912 - 15/05/06 02:53 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Lupo]
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
Registered: 04/08/04
Loc: Staines
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I am also a bit shocked at the hostility going on. We've had this before where people have suspected a hopper from being a liar and it wasnt nice! True we dont know Rosita, she could be a 30 year old man named Jospeph planning to infect the worls poi have them delivered all over the country and then they infect everyones mind with crazy talk of things like antispin is actually good  But also she could be who she says she is, all she has been asking for is if you have any old battered poi rather than throw them away send them to her. If I wanted to pretend to be blind so I could get peoples equipment I wouldnt put emphasis on how battered and old they are as she hss done, if I wanted to go to the trouble of pretending to be blind to get poi, personally, I wouldnt bother with getting old crap equipment which I could just as easily make and get half decent stuff. Let's show a little faith here. Rosita I dont have any poi I can send you, but good luck with your search, I think it's great to see someone with a disability letting it hardly affect them, keep up the good work in the comunity!
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An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
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#732913 - 15/05/06 03:04 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: PyroWill]
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The Ministry of Manipulation
Registered: 08/11/01
Loc: Bristol
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To Pele (With her moderator hat off): I think you overstepped the line there. Your first post reads as being un-necessarily agressive I hope that this will help to stop your fears that Rosita is an imposter. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%09+Maria+Rosita+Apaza+MarchaqaNice Llama btw. This is after all a help section. And the HOP I always knew is a very charitable place. Good luck Rosita, very sorry to hear that your gear wsa stolen. Smiles Drew
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#732914 - 15/05/06 04:57 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: Glåss]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 14/07/05
Loc: Sihanoukville, cambodia
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I'm so glad so many people have leapt to the defense of Rosita in here. Most of the things i want to say have already been said,but i would like to say its good to read so many positive words. Reminds me why i love this community so much. Rosita-hopefully we will see you at PLAY festival or something else soon if you can make it? Would be lovely to meet you! *hugs,love and happiness*  
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#732916 - 15/05/06 07:02 AM
Re: Blind Fire performerStaff//Poi Spinner needs urgent help!
[Re: FieryFireWorld]
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veteran
Registered: 29/07/05
Loc: lost
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Rosita, I have been robbed a few times this last year,and it sucks! I am sorry, what an unpleasant view you are getting of some peoples behaviour. A big hug your way, and Good luck rounding up new gear.
On the subject of disabilities- wow, some of the comments really surprised me. Some disabilities present very real limitations , and it shocked me to see some people judging whether or not they are sufficient to justify someones request for help! Yikes! Being blind would be a pretty significant part of someones life I should think, and would find it more odd if a blind spinner did not mention it.
Rosita, I am pretty impressed that you do all the amazing things you do!
Hope to meet you at Play... If you have not gotten your hands on some good practice poi by then, pm me, and I will bring a set. Shipping from Canada just is not practical!
smiles,
Andrea
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