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#679830 - 29/06/06 01:48 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: SpAcE_BrOtHeR]
Borislav Offline
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Registered: 30/01/06
Fire nunchaku is great! I'm doing some, and each time the people around me are amazed.

I have a problem. When i swing it fast, especially when I'm doing some atacks, the fire is put off. What fuel do you use?

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#679831 - 30/06/06 10:18 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Moka]
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Registered: 19/06/05
It is true that most places have laws making things like nunchaku illeagle, usually if they're specifically engineered for entertainment purposes (this is where fire nunchaku come into play) it can be considered as a trade tool. This is how martial arts instructors and students are legally allowed to own said weapons.

You should definatly check you're local laws and see if you can find a loophole/exemption to figure out how you need to go about it.

 Written by: Moka


Hate to sound like a kill-joy... But just remember all of you that Nunchaku are illegal in most places fire or not... (even foam covered practice ones are illegal how stupid!)
Cheers, Moka


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#679832 - 04/07/06 07:09 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: havocangel]
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Registered: 30/05/06
Loc: nsw, gunnedah
unfortunatly, i live in nsw, n chucks are banned. but im plannin on gettin a traditional weaponry collectors license, so maybey then i can make some glow chucks. i dont think id use fire chucks in a real hurry.
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#679833 - 01/08/06 04:39 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: albotross]
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Registered: 14/07/04
Loc: manchester uk
borislav i had exacly the same problem as you did the problem isn't the fuel your useing its the wick size your wicks are to small you need bigger wicks to stop the flames going out

as for legality if you want to spin nunchucks in public only ever use foam fire or glow nunchucks never the ones made specificaly for fighting also dont cause any trouble or draw any of the wrong kind of attention to your self if the police do approach you be polite and friendly and they shouldn't give you any trouble

also albotross i might be wrong but isn't making nunchucks illegal a violation of the bit in the US constitutional that gives people the right to bare arms? maby you could get round it by sawing two shot guns down to size and attaching them with a chain that'ed be nunchucks for 21st century warfair and they couldn't do you for it without stoping people haveing guns


Edited by robnunchucks (03/08/06 02:27 AM)
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#679834 - 27/10/06 05:13 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: GelatinousRusk]
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*snip*


Edited by Pele (28/10/06 12:07 PM)

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#679835 - 14/05/08 09:03 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: GelatinousRusk]
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 Written by :GelatinousRusk


After having seriosuly looked at the site I think I'm going to make msyelf some glow chucks first. I don't fancy setting my face on fire just yet .
I've been using chucks for about a year or so now but when I sit and actually think about it fire chucks seem a tad too scary atm.



If you can spin the nunchukas then you don't need to worry about the fire. 10 minutes after I started spinning Nunchucks I spun them with fire. There's no reason to be scared of them.

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#679836 - 14/05/08 10:46 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Keithb]
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Loc: Cambridge, UK
Wow, what a post bump... You did fire after 10 seconds on nunchuck spinning? :S Sounds like a very silly thing to have done.
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#679837 - 20/05/08 12:12 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Rellizate]
natasqi Offline
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Registered: 04/07/07
Loc: Perth
I'd say you need quite a bit of experience with chucks... and with fire. With chucks (or at least mine) the fire is a lot closer to you than with poi or staff.
If you mislay one hand and grab the fire... or hit yourself, or...

I agree with Rellizate, I don't believe spinning with fire after 10 minutes on the apparatus was the safest thing to do.


Edited by natasqi (24/05/08 03:43 AM)

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#679838 - 24/05/08 03:06 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: natasqi]
Brenn Offline
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Registered: 28/06/04
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I believe Keithb said minutes, not seconds, but that's still an amazingly short time, unless he's had prior experience in martial arts and/or other flail type weaponry.

I'm considering fire nunchaku in the not too distant future
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#679839 - 24/05/08 03:13 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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Excellent. PM me for any tips or anything if you want.
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#679840 - 24/05/08 06:03 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Rellizate]
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Rellizate Muchly appreciated!

Are you perchance coming to PLAY this year?
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#679841 - 24/05/08 09:02 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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Probably not

At most only 1 days worth of it...

It clashes with my annual trip to scotland with my parents which gets greatly annoying. But you never know.
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#679842 - 24/05/08 09:27 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Rellizate]
Brenn Offline
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Registered: 28/06/04
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
That's a shame

Should you find yourself coming to PLAY let me know Always happy to swap skillsets with a fellow martial artist
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#679843 - 24/05/08 10:06 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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Ahh are you a traditionalist? I'm a freestyler. TBH I hate fighting... :-/
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#679844 - 24/05/08 10:23 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Rellizate]
Brenn Offline
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Goju-Ryu Traditionalist, but occasionally I sit in on other styles and see what theirs are about, and any concepts I find are very good I take and apply to my own

I'm not one for fighting either, it's more of an inner strength and spiritual avenue for me
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#679845 - 24/05/08 11:30 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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Oh right ok cool. So you do like combat moves with the chucks?
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#679846 - 26/05/08 07:14 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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Registered: 27/08/08
 Written by :Brenn


Thanks Rellizate Muchly appreciated!

Are you perchance coming to PLAY this year?



Hopefully there will be a fairly strong nunchaku contingent at PLAY this year, myself included. We managed to generate enough interest in ye olde flaily sticks to run a beginners workshop last year with about 20 people, so hopefully those guys are all proper jedi by now

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#679847 - 27/05/08 08:28 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Old-User--36092]
Brenn Offline
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Registered: 28/06/04
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Rellizate: I do Haven't formally studied nunchaku though but hopefully with the other firetoys i've learned as well as the sword arts i've dabbled with i should be able to pick things up reasonably quickly. I do appreciate weapo

Mr_Joe: Fantastic! I won't be able to bring my own nunchaku because A) I don't have a pair and B) It's somewhat illegal to own them here in Aus without formally studying it. If there would be practice pairs available at a potential beginners nunchaku workshop I'd be eager to attend!
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#679848 - 29/05/08 02:59 AM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: Brenn]
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"It's somewhat illegal to own them here in Aus without formally studying it."

NO NO NO
Well, I went on the WA police site and went through all their stupid legal crappy language and got hell confused.

But in the end, it's not illegal to own them.. You basically just need a legitimate reason.
So, In the boot of my car I have practice chucks (foam) wooden chucks and fire chucks. So they're for my "work" because I'm a "performer".

I emailed the police about it and this is basically what they said...

in fact.. here is my email and their reply..

Me - "I was wondering whether you could answer my questions directly or refer me to a complete version of the Weapons Act of 1999.
I am a fireperformer and use a variety of instruments for entertainment.

One of these is 'firetwirlers' which are also know as 'firechucks' which can be seen as nunchucks. They are made of metal but have Kevlar wick on the ends, i.e. padding and can hence, not injure anyone (except me,
when they're on fire! :-).
1. Are these still considered nunchucks/baton flails?
2. Is my profession and being a member/employee of a fire performance troupe a 'legal' excuse for owning and possessing these?
3. Do you need to be a member of a martial arts club to own baton flails?
4. Does being in my car count as 'on my possession'? Do they need to be in a locked container? Or does just in the boot out of reach count?
5. If I wanted to travel to Queensland for a firedancing conference, can I take them with me?

Thanks for your help!"

Them -"

Natalie,

Nunchucks/Baton Flails are listed as Controlled Weapons within the meaning of the Weapons Act; possession is not illegal and it appears that as you use them proffessionally you have a valid reason to possess them.

Your firertwirlers would fall within the description of a baton flail.

You don't have to licence them and there's no specific security arrangements for them - safely secured in you car would suffice.

I can't see any problems with taking them to Queensland with you however you may want to check with the airline prior to departure and declare them to cabin staff on the plane.

I'm not sure of the requirements in Queensland however you can call the Queensland Police Weapons Licencing Branch on (07 )33643617 and they'll be able to supply you with further information.

If you require a complete copy of the Weapons Act then you can call the State Law Publishers on 93217688 or email on state publisherssales@dpc.wa.gov.au and they'll be able to supply you with a copy - I'm unsure of the costs involved.

Terry Bodenham
Senior Constable 9826
Firearms Inquiry Unit
WA Police"


YAY!! So everyone in Aus who is scared because of these supposed laws (I know, I thought I was being illegal too at first) it's not illegal.. You're a PROFESSIONAL and they're part of your ARTFORM :P

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#679849 - 30/05/08 12:06 PM Re: Making Fire Chucks [Re: natasqi]
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Registered: 28/06/04
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Natasqi, that is a VERY encouraging post!

However, I have to wonder if that extends to VIC. We seem to be a lot tighter over here.
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