*ew. bellydancing? what do you consider "modern?"*
Well, it's not what I consider "modern": for what I know, classical dance is the one until 18th century; modern dance is the one until (broadly) Isadora Duncan, and then there is contemporary dance (so, contact impro is a form of contemporary).
Then there are all kinds of folk dances, ethnical dances, and whatever; and all the pop dances.
It's not my distinction, I have been explained it like this; I actually have problems thinking that "modern" is older than "contemporary"; and maybe now there is postmodern dance, who know.
*i'd seriously go with "raver", aka "gliding", aka "heel/toe". hands down winner for me. you get turns whenever you want them and can possibly move into more "lock and pop" gliding which gives huge contrast between the body motions and smooth poi spinning. *
Yep, I have looked into them. I actually use them (even if my gliding is NOT that good) while dancing, sometime; but not while spinning.
(Really: fluid AND spinning? I did fluid AND contact, I mean contact ball, but not spinning; I'll think about it)
I'm downloading the video just now, anyway.
*also, some general jungle jump-up movement works if you've got the energy. i don't know what the jungle/DnB scene is like in italy, but i can link some more vids when i get home. *
I guess it's not so strong, I don't have ny clue about what is it.
Well, I'll be in Berlin in 3 weeks, I'll look about it.
But: if _jumpup_ is about jumping, is not for me. I gave up jumping in capoeira, too, and my joints BEGGED me to stop trying aerials and mortals; so. No jumping, if I can avoid it.
*boys bellydancing. pfft. don't make me link to dantana's bellydancing vid for contrast to the heel/toe.
(this is ... well, mostly.. in jest. bellydance if you want to. just don't complain to me if you get laughed at for your efforts.)*
Dunno: if a man bellydancing has the same effect on women of a woman bellydancing has on me, I DEFINITELY want to go for it. Now that I know I won't be just thrown out with screams of "what are you doing here, you pervert".
And if they do, I'll point them to Arashi and mcp.
*Ever since I first picked up a pair of poi I've been after the answer to this question and after talking to quite a few dancers, I've come to the conclusion that there is no real definitive answer. Most people seem to promote the style of dance they're into, even if it's not really applicable to poi ( like tango ) however I don't see this as a bad thing.*
I don't think there is a DEFINITE aswer to anything (expept 42, that's a definitve answer, of course); but there are a lot of personal answer, and all of the make sense.
And: I mixed tango and poi, there are a couple of moves I worked on for THAT reason, and I love to use gotan project for music.
*Speaking as a fellow "non dancer" I do believe that there is a secret to movement and eventually I hope to tap into it, but one thing's for sure at this point in time, I need my toys in order to feel comfortable with this whole dance thing. I did manage a little freehand glowsticking last month*
Yep, for ages I NEEDED my toys to be confortable.
Actually, I did some performance without toys last summer, just dancing. People seemed to like it; that's why I want to delve deeper and learn more about dancing, the naked one.
*It might help to examine your own motivations for posing this question, I did and found I had a few.*
Ok: my motivations are "easy".
I never danced. Poi (and staff) taught me to dance, and a form of Wu-Wei (the principle of tao and taiji quan: action without action, of not forcing). And I realized I loved.
So: now I want to became a better dancer without toys.
But, still, I'd like to stay in the path, I don't want to go to the dark side. I'd like to keep the toys and the dance.
*The first was to get a grip on the whole "being a performer" thing, which was something I'd had zero experience with so I just swallowed my nervousness and joined a professional group with lots of work. We're still working, New Years eve, I'll be the guy painted gold, wearing white, and spinning in some sort of Shakespearean procession. Did this make me a better dancer? I don't think so but it definitely affected my spinning style and taught me to feel more confident with cheezy TA DA......type moves. I learned to embrace my inner poser.*
That's great, actually.
This summer I was with a troup in Sicily, and I volunteered to be Adam in a just dancing part, SINCE they told me we had to be naked (come on, what would have been my OTHER chance to dance naked in a public square, in Sicily?). But then, they changed their mind and we had to PRETEND to be naked, but dressed (I mean, dance pants). So in the end I was using my sock poi, with black light.
Who knew Adam was created by a God on stilts, and had poi from the first day?
*Another motivation I found I had was balance. Sometimes I found I got so lost in the spinning moment I was tripping over my own feet, and I still do sometimes. I think the secret to sorting this out lies in tai chi, but I have yet to study it. For performance based spinning I'm learning to move between a series of stable stances. I'm not moving as quickly as I'd like, but at least I haven't embarassed myself yet.*
I don't like it quick.
For the balance, and the transitions, and the stances, I think taiji quan is perfect.
*I was also concerned about positioning my upper body, I sort of had this picture in my head that I looked like a hunchback when I was spinning ( the antithesis of Yuta ) and I found that after bouncing this idea off several dancres, that maybe I was being a little to self critical. Most dancers agreed that studying any form of dance would help with this, this being the whole "up" thing. Still working on it.........but "giant" moves come in handy here.*
Ok, I worked on my upper body for years, and just when i thought I pinned it down and was OK, my dancing friends told me I was forgetting about the legs. I (from waist up) was dancing, they (the legs) were walking and getting in the way.
So. Time for REAL trainig. I guess.
*Good luck with your quest, and if you find THE answer, please, let me know*
I don't think there is THE answer, there must be many different answers, and all are THE asnwer.
(ok, ok, too much Zen recently).