Behind the back reverse weave

Whew. Ok, this last move is a tough one. There are no instructions on the webpage to get you started, and the video quality is, to put it mildly, pretty awful, so anyone out there with any helpful tips will be thouroughly appreciated. Thanks

strmseekr,

I agree the picture is not the best quality. But I believe that if anything it proves that a change of direction can be done completely behind the back whilst doing the weave.

I take it you have mastered the previous move. Basically you just reverse the direction that the poi (or whatever) is moving. Hence the name reverse or backward.

Turning is pretty much the same as the turning whilst doing weave infront of you move. See backward weave and turn

I started learning these moves the same as I learnt the weave. With one poi in one hand and no poi in the other. Swing your arms in the movements required. Practice heaps and then put the poi into the other hand. When you are ready use both poi

Hope this helps

Regards

Malcolm

Thanks. I think my biggest problem is conceptualizing what my arms should be doing. With the reg. weave, it is just a matter of pulling out the arm that is closer to my back, which feels natural, because the strings (or chains) are flowing in the same direction. With the reverse I have to make the same motion with my arms but the chains have to be going in the opposite direction. And as hard as that is to describe, it's easier said than done.
The poi keep trying to cross paths, tangling the strings in rather interesting and complicated knots, and so far I've only managed to get as far as a reverse behind the back butterfly and thread the needle (the latter is my lame attempt at a rev.btb figure eight). I'm trying to get this thing down pat before a rave on friday night

For whatever it's worth, it took me a solid month of daily practice to get the btb reverse weave (which I got before the btb forward weave), after bashing bruises into both shoulders. I think it's fair to say that it just takes a lot of work.

Try this: I found that it is a lot easyer to start with one poi.
Just like when i started the forward weave i would just put out one arm, and go over it, under it and across. i did this for a while then did the other hand. The trick is not to move your arm sreched out in front, right?
Well now to do the Behind the Back Weave you start off going bacwards, with one poi, the other hand streached behind you. You cross your back with the poi, and go over the hand, under the hand and then back to spinning at your side. Once you are comortable with that you do the other hand. Over the hand, under the hand and back at your side. It is a lot easyer if when you start with both pois to swing your body from side to side when the poi is behind your back. Some people lift there feet so they don't hit the back of their legs, but i found by swaying back and forth i don't need to.
Does that make any scence?
Exuse my horable spelling

yes, and it was helpful, but since "over, under, across" is for going backwards, does that mean "under, over, across" is for the reverse?

Yeah, I just tried that one handed deal for learning, and that same question came to my mind. It would make sense wouldnt it? I am having a hell of a time with it.

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~I dont care if they eat me alive, Ive got better things to do than survive. ~Ani

I GOT IT!! Finally! jeez- took long enough. Anyway, thanks everybody for all your input, and for anyone else trying to learn, all you have to do is imagine the forward weave positioned behind your body, and it will come easily. Thanks again,
-PLM