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#643103 - 04/08/06 11:20 AM Re: What are you working on now? *** [Re: Geeza]
Pogo69 Offline
there's no charge for awesomeness... or attractiveness

Registered: 06/04/06
Loc: limbo
oh... well... I got someone else doing reverse TTN last night in about 2 minutes, geeza... so, here's what helped erin and I...

with forwards TTN, you thread the top hand forwards... when trying reverse, I was thinking too much about where the poi were arcing to start with... instead I started thinking about threading the "bottom" hand forwards instead and it just started working... I had it in a couple minutes and last night, so did erin... good luck

nice work on the btb and wraps... I've really only just started playing with wraps and haven't succeeded in anything other than hitting myself, but try, try, try... and haven't tried ANYTHING btb yet... even bringing the poi overhead once screws me up right, don't like it when I can't see the poi
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#643104 - 04/08/06 01:42 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Pogo69]
Crisis Offline
newbie

Registered: 04/08/06
This week I am mostly learning backwards 5bt weave and btb 3bt weave... with little success and many injuries...

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#643105 - 05/08/06 01:43 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Crisis]
Richee Offline
HOP librarian

Registered: 15/01/02
Loc: Prague

In of move:

-Anti(Spin) - Shaping, Hybrid move, Polar weave, Pull & Push

Out of move:

- Feuershow.de - Tutorial check out
- Baton - September classes
- Ubeurope 11-13 (Vienna)
- Tuesday - Workshop for Smeries

Insideout:

- Valurus - Electronic encyclopoidia

lightning,

:R
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#643106 - 05/08/06 04:02 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Richee]
Geeza Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 14/05/06
Loc: Leeds
thanks pogo, i'll try threading the bottom hand forwards tonight. worked out how to do weave double bicep wrap last night, i just didnt need and wrap one to get butterfly. stupid me!

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#643107 - 08/08/06 12:06 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Geeza]
Bűzrael Offline
newbie

Registered: 24/07/04
Loc: Istanbul
working on btb butterfly weave atm, and its turning out horribly. for the first time in ages i find myself hitting my nuts, a feeling I really didn't miss.

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#643108 - 08/08/06 01:02 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Pogo69]
Pogo69 Offline
there's no charge for awesomeness... or attractiveness

Registered: 06/04/06
Loc: limbo
 Written by: Pogo69


I've given up on 5bt weave for now... cos try as I might (and I understand what I'm "supposed" to do), I can't do it...




just when you give it away, it comes back all by itself... worked on 5bt tonight @ juggle jam... and... I can sorta get it now in a very, very ugly fashion... more practise, but now I know it'll come...

will attempt reverse 5bt now, I think and start practising flowers again (never really did practise them in the 1st place)... the wraps are still going nowhere fast
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#643109 - 09/08/06 07:04 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Pogo69]
Muskelunge Offline
member

Registered: 06/10/05
Loc: Chicago
Straightjackets continue to foil me. The planes simply refuse to get straight with these jackets. Ending up with the poi heading straight for my jacket.
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#643110 - 11/08/06 11:05 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Muskelunge]
Pogo69 Offline
there's no charge for awesomeness... or attractiveness

Registered: 06/04/06
Loc: limbo
ok... forwards 5bt still happening, but ugly... reverse 5bt not happening @ all, but I think I sorta understand it... kinda...

got a wrist wrap thingie going that can take butterfly to weave and back... needs more work, but is nice to finally have something that can move between the 2, relatively smoothly...

also working on an isolated 3bt weave... well... really just a 3bt with isolations in the middle
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#643111 - 23/08/06 10:36 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Pogo69]
sketch Offline
Empirically random...

Registered: 16/05/06
Loc: Lincoln
ummm.. just playing with some really stoopid stuff!

attempting to isolate btb waist wrap, with limited sucess.

a silly one = 2:1 and 3:2 polyrythm isolations (really look strange if the timings on!) damn you cole!

playing with negative space stalls and wraps hoping to find something tasty.

Hybrids are fun at the moment.

btb inverted antispin 7 beat iso weave hybrid to late double backflip headstand....... i call it spaghetti junction! (please note: must be drunk, naked, on a trampoline to attempt.)

god im bored......

Bűzrael = btb butterfly weave sounds fun, im off to have a go!
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#643112 - 24/08/06 01:00 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: sketch]
albotross Offline
member

Registered: 30/05/06
Loc: nsw, gunnedah
well, iv never had the money to get any vidios n stuff, so the only tym i get to learn things is if there just happens to be a pro in town (eg.we have a festival every sept.) so, iv learnt several thing on my own, and have no idea what there called. so if anyone wantsta tell me what a "shoulder reel", or a “hyperloop” is, it would be much apreciated. iv also been told that "antispin" is wen ur hand goes the oposit direction to the poi. what exactly dose that mean? any vidios?
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#643113 - 24/08/06 01:14 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: albotross]
Pogo69 Offline
there's no charge for awesomeness... or attractiveness

Registered: 06/04/06
Loc: limbo
Hyperloop

Antispin flower

picture (or even better, video) paints a 1000 words
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#643114 - 24/08/06 10:14 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: Pogo69]
mico Offline
freedom in chains

Registered: 20/07/04
Loc: San Francisco & Oxford

Curious - the antipsin flower only makes three circles. But
it does have 4 extreme positions...
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#643115 - 25/08/06 01:59 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: mico]
simian Offline
monkey

Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
yup, from each position to the next
(i use the bits where the poi are pointing straight out from or straight in toward the centre as a reference)
they move three quarters of a circle
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#643116 - 25/08/06 02:10 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: simian]
coleman Offline
big and good

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
yep - its the classic 'big circle with small circles counting problem'.

you need to count beats as they pass the arm (i.e. at the centre of the big circle) rather than at the bottoms of the little circles.


cole. x
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#643117 - 25/08/06 02:12 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: simian]
mico Offline
freedom in chains

Registered: 20/07/04
Loc: San Francisco & Oxford
Aaah - I think this crucial bit of infomation will reveal
the secret of anti-spin flowers to world!!


So that means a non-anti-spin spun flower makes
5 circles.. (5/4 turn for each position)
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#643118 - 25/08/06 02:14 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: mico]
coleman Offline
big and good

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
yep, 5 circles:

1 big one + 4 little ones

innit


cole. x
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#643119 - 25/08/06 02:20 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: coleman]
mico Offline
freedom in chains

Registered: 20/07/04
Loc: San Francisco & Oxford
Right!

And so the anti-spin makes 4 little ones minus 1 big one (=3 circles)

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#643120 - 25/08/06 02:31 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: mico]
coleman Offline
big and good

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
by george i thnk he's got it...!


counting the total 'circles' in the pattern is counter-intuitive so instead, we count beats as the poi pass our arms.

when it comes to spinning goofy flowers (one arm normal spin, one arm antispin), this helps no end - otherwise you're trying to reconcile a 5 circle pattern with a 3 circle pattern and it all gets a bit hectic wherease counting beats from the centre leads to a 4 beat pattern with each arm


cole. x
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#643121 - 28/08/06 04:35 PM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: coleman]
wolfbro001 Offline
Member

Registered: 10/05/06
Loc: Brisbane, Qld
Finally! I find the crucial pieces of information to help clean up my antispin flowers! thanks guys

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#643122 - 30/08/06 11:26 AM Re: What are you working on now? [Re: wolfbro001]
Mireneye Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 10/10/05
Personally i'm working on somethin again I don't really know the name. It's a move you can do with basically almost anything that wraps. Instead of letting the poi head do the bounce back you let your arm take the knockback movement. This makes the poi almost stay still while the arm moves. This can actually look pretty cool with certain things, and it makes for some interesting spinning since most people just continue playing with the knockbacks it was more interesting for me to play with like fullarm knocbacks, I'm sure I can get it to flow nicely with some flowers.

Cheers

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