Fountains

*gets two handbags, does a fountain -no a winmills with a 3 bt weave- no a fount- windm- fout- win- aww fct *beats vamp, icon,bovril and NYC about the perculiars with the handbags, and that shatz bloke for good mesure**

stoopid geeks.

T

More Fountain Fun

For isolations, I turn to my right or left side, and take the poi in between my arms, similar to buzzsaw start. Then I try to keep the poi inside, while I go up and over.

They’re lots of variation on the fountain, and adding a windmill is one of them. But, if you go into the windmill first, you are probably doing a three beat weave. In club swinging, the fountain is a follow move with the over-under-added, rather than a weave per se. At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter, but it’s useful to know the difference.

Pic 2 pages 2 (Fig 18.3). I start those circles much lower, and have wrist on wrist as I go up for the top three circles. Sure add the windmill by going from the circles in-front to circles behind, then stretch up for an overhead circle. You can also do a circle between the legs.

In Fig 18.4 all the circles are in-front, so the top circles are in-front of the head.

is this the start of a war ????

ok you're right fountain doesnt have to have a windmill i was wrong
Signed
Vamp!

Welcome to the know-it-all club!

its not the start of a war,

its more like the petty bickering about who won the war down the pub 100 years afterwards that can STILL end up in a glassing.

T

dont have to go down pub to be glassed - just have an accident with milkshake and an angry sister at my mum's haha

ok i've read the whole of this and looked at the mediacircus link in slow motion (frame by frame) but when i try to do it it gets stuck crossing over. so far i get left over right, left under right and then they get stuck whereas they're sposed to keep going - i can see it workin on the mediacircus thing but it won't click in my head.

i see it goes under-over but i guess im not twisting right..i think its the direction of the poi im getting wrong...

any hints?

thanx - this move looks awesome and can get my on my way to flowing

Can you do a forwards weave, a backwards weave and the turns between them (both ways)?

A fountain is essentially just turning from forwards weave to backwards and then back again as soon as possible, but moving low for the first turn and then reaching up high for the turn back.

So, after the left over right, left under right part, you then uncross and recross your arms exactly the same as you'd do for a backwards weave, then turn back towards a forwards weave again.

Obviously reverse everything in there if you're doing it t'other way around (backwards weave to forwards weave while low, forwards to backwards while high).

I hope that helps, let me know if it doesn't, I'll try a different way of describing it.

ye i can do the weaves forward+reverse and turns - i think its the way that im turning my body at the cross bit that confuses me.

i dont see how you can move to the reverse weave without turning - which way do the pois swing?

also i cant get the crossing and uncrossing bit without the pois turning in the opposite direction like a vertical figure 8 type thing...if that makes sense

hmm try explaining every cm of movement reaally slowly - maybe then my brain will click!

Thank you so much for your help - i'm not going to give up!

ooo ok - i lookd at the media circus thing again+again frame by frame + what you're saying and i thiink im gettin there. is it that you do forward weave for the low bit, then reverse weave for the high bit - because before i was taking it that it was forward to reverse as you go from right to left

im gonna go whack myself trying outside now - will let you know how i get on

p.s. thank you sooooo much

well I am no nomenclatura specialist, but I play a fountain as weave to the right, low cross to rev weave on the left and windmill as high cross back for weave to the right.

looks like this:

Fountain

- As defined by Omnimodus and A.Jillings-CS

- It is serie of four cross-over moves,
making six circles figure.

Has two halves:

- Lower fountain & Upper fountain

It meens : TWO TURNs

Example:

( Weave -> Weave ) & (Weave -> Weave)

- The first part is Weave turn ,
with two wheel plane carries.

The upper part is single Weave turn too,
Without hip reels, but hands up.

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Stay tuned, more to come.

lightning,

:R

IMO Fountain is more a name to describe a type of compound circle, like a flower.

Take any pattern, fountain it, ie move your hands round in a giant circle whilst keeping the pattern the same.

The standard is a 2 or 3 beat weave fountain
buzzsaw fountain
butterfly fountain
then you got your antispin fountains if the giant circle goes opposite direction to the pattern circles
and atomic fountains and so on.

ok i've kind of got it, but i've only got 5 circles - i basically do a 3 beat wave from right to left then a windmill which brings me back - what am i doing wrong?

ooooo i think i get it - will go practice in a minute - tell ya how it goes...

p.s. swear that media circus does a bit behind the head....hmm ahh well - will try this way