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#546211 - 24/05/05 06:30 PM Re: new grip material [Re: FlamingOberon]
conflagration Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Loc: Eugene, Oregon
one idea i havent tried it yet, but use atleast a flame retardent material. just get some kevlar grips covered in nomex or you if your you can pick up some flame retardent chemicals to soak the grips in. ive heard stories of people coating nylon dresses in flame retardent chems, and twirling flame, and not turning into a giant fireball.


Roscoflamex C26 is a concentrated flame retardant that effectively treats natural-fiber textiles, paper products, and other cellulosic materials.

Roscoflamex S33 effectively flameproofs many synthetic fabrics, such as polyesters, nylons, acrylics and rayons, as well as many cotton/synthetic blends

FF4L is a general use fabric protector that can be used to effectively treat most fabrics, both natural and synthetic, plus other cellulosic materials.

if your concerned about the toxcisity of these just find the MSDS on it

i found all this info at http://www.bearclawmfg.com/o_rosco.html

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#546212 - 25/05/05 07:35 AM Re: new grip material [Re: conflagration]
FlamingOberon Offline
ohm mani padme hum

Registered: 26/04/05
Loc: Worcester, MA
yeah i know all about rosco products i work at a theatre and rosco is a leading supplier of different theatre supplies. i think it would be easier to just get.make kevlar grips than make nylon ones and soak them, as the flame retardant is expensive and not something i would use a lot of...

in reality, since i have been too lazy to build anything, i have been spinning with my nylon grips and havent had a problem since that first time when i got fuel on my grip... so maybe i will just hope for the best and stick with thsi for now (?)

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#546213 - 25/05/05 01:04 PM Re: new grip material [Re: FlamingOberon]
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Registered: 11/04/05
Loc: Eugene, Oregon
i do say watch out for the nylon straps, mine had fuel drip down the chain onto them and i ended up getting second degree burns on the back side of 3 of my fingers. so just be careful.

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#546214 - 25/05/05 10:33 PM Re: new grip material [Re: conflagration]
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Registered: 15/09/04
Loc: bristol
'Jesus, why do people keep hijacking threads to go over Ethical discourses??

Can we have a new Forum entitled "Ethics" please? And while you're at it, how about "Meta-Physics"??'

BECAUSE ALL QUESTIONS ULTIMATELY BOIL DOWN TO ETHICS AND METAPHYSICS, DAMNIT
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#546215 - 25/05/05 10:48 PM Re: new grip material [Re: quiet]
flid Offline
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Registered: 27/08/02
Loc: Warwickshire
Written by: sethis

'Jesus, why do people keep hijacking threads to go over Ethical discourses??




The thread wasn't hijacked at all. If you'd read the first post you'd have seen that it was started by someone who has an ethical objection to the most common grip material; leather. Perhaps the topic could have been more appropriate, such as "alternative grip materials to leather", but it's a fair question, and which I've also looking into in the past.

As you've not actually contributed anything constructive to the thread, why do you care anyway?

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#546216 - 27/05/05 05:19 PM Re: new grip material [Re: flid]
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Registered: 05/05/05
Loc: Check behind you.
I agree with quiet, an I'm veg too.
That info's _disturbing_, Oberon.
To the practicality question though what sort of places sell flame retardent materials? I want to make some fire fingers out of gloves, wire and kevlar rolled and screwed on the ends so I'm probably going to get some denim gloves ones made up. I could cover them in kevlar or havethem made out of it, though there's still the absorbency problem. If I can get some chemicals to prevent flames getting to the gloves it would be perfect.
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#546217 - 27/05/05 07:34 PM Re: new grip material [Re: Seb]
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Registered: 27/08/02
Loc: Warwickshire
The best place to find fire retardant/flame resistant clothing (eg gloves) is industrial clothing suppliers. Have a look around on the net, the prices can be suprisingly cheap (ie they can afford to as they sell thousands of the things to companies on a regular basis, not novelty items to a minority such as fire performers). In the UK you can get pretty decent looking kevlar sleeves for 4 pounds, which is cheaper than buying the kevlar from anywhere I know and making them yourself. I guess they're designed for butchers etc, but they work for wraps too

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