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#501807 - 31/03/05 06:16 AM Re: wire wool [Re: pitman]
anonomatos Offline
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this might be the best place to post this:

What is the best construction I can use for wire-wool-fire-poi? Anyone got some tips or a tutorial on this?
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#501808 - 31/03/05 08:54 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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YES!! my goodness. LOOK UP!!!

Just look up 5 posts and there are 7 threads all about it.

Did you even read this thread?

REALLY?

...........................I don't know why i bother.

I really, really don't.

I'm going to have a moan now. HoP really, really has changed. Grrrrr!


Edited by fluffy napalm fairy (31/03/05 08:55 AM)

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#501809 - 31/03/05 08:57 AM Re: wire wool [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
anonomatos Offline
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thnx, I couldve figured that out myself...

@fluffy fairy... you need some therapy? i study social work, i might have an address or 2 i can link you to (psychiatry that is )

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#501810 - 31/03/05 08:58 AM Re: wire wool [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
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edited to take out the frustrated swearing and unpleasantness. I'll just leave the exasperated bits.

People used to use their own brains.

Or maybe that was just me.
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#501811 - 31/03/05 10:42 AM Re: wire wool [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
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Written by: fluffy napalm fairy


I spent ages finding all those






When I saw the links you posted I did think that it was a refreshing change to the usual 'do a search...' response to newbie questions that seems to happen on HOP so much, and basically a very nice thing for you to have done.

Obviously not everyone has appreciated it, and I wanted to basically say that it was a good thing, and it would be great if more people took note of it and perhaps made similar efforts.

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#501812 - 01/04/05 03:52 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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Written by: anonomatos


i study social work, i might have an address or 2 i can link you to (psychiatry that is )





...then you should know that a psychiatrist is the person that perscribes medications for psychological issues...your talking about a psychologist.....

and fluffy...tis ok...therapy works.....ish
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#501813 - 01/04/05 05:41 AM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
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Therapy? Now I'm confused

to Dave - Now I know why people don't bother. Sad but true. However I seem to have an inexhaustible supply of fluff-energy so i shall keep going................
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#501814 - 01/04/05 06:30 AM Re: wire wool [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
anonomatos Offline
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fuggedaboutit then...

anyways... this the construction so far (missing kevlar @ the bottom)... pretty much complete afaik for the rest...

any tips???

http://home.wanadoo.nl/rhoutappel/plaatjes/poi/wirewoolpoi.jpg
(its about 12cm broad)


Edited by anonomatos (01/04/05 06:32 AM)
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#501815 - 01/04/05 06:34 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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those holes are ginormous.......and by having that metal thing(looks like a paint can)...up top it limits airflow......however...using a cylindrical shape seems like something to toy with....
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#501816 - 01/04/05 06:39 AM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
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ive tried poiing with it and it works okay, the air resistance isnt that bad... or you mean air for the burning of the Wire wool?
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#501817 - 01/04/05 06:45 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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air for the wool
the more air you get the hotter, brighter, and more sparks you get.....
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#501818 - 01/04/05 06:49 AM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
anonomatos Offline
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I see... well the paint pot is open on the top, so there should be enough air I thought... anyways, i punch some holes in the can and add some kevlar tomorrow and wirewool and swing with it... so ill see then

any other tips? the size, shape?
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#501819 - 01/04/05 06:51 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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ill use a whole bag of wool...each cage...longest burn so far has been about 5 min...after my gig this weekend i should have enough time to take pix and post details..
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#501820 - 01/04/05 07:33 AM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
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5 min... thats long
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#501821 - 01/04/05 09:14 AM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
anonomatos Offline
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finally... this is the final design... ill be testing it this weekend i hope...

http://home.wanadoo.nl/rhoutappel/plaatjes/poi/finishedwirepoi.jpg
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#501822 - 01/04/05 11:45 PM Re: wire wool [Re: anonomatos]
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5 minutes.... That's a v.long time!
I would be very interested to know the design of your cages if your willing to share. Or if you get much buildup after your finished spinning.
Let me know and I will PM you if you aren't willing to post the designs up here for any 'punk kid' to see.
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#501823 - 01/04/05 11:50 PM Re: wire wool [Re: Mr_Jedly]
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Doesnt the Kevlar get destroyed by the wool?

All the cages I've seen have been well just cages,
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#501824 - 02/04/05 05:54 AM Re: wire wool [Re: house_of_mill]
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guess not... i basically stole the idea of telpeva isil... as far as ive seen the action with his design it works fine.

tonight im gonna try my design... a friend of mine is going to assist with a bucket of water and a towel if anything goes wrong. i also bought a pair of swimming-glasses just to be absolutely sure... full covered natural fiber clothing... im ready for the ultimate pyromania.

*boy oh boy...* im very curious if its going to work!


Edited by anonomatos (02/04/05 07:14 AM)
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#501825 - 02/04/05 11:18 AM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
anonomatos Offline
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soooooo...

first testrun behind my back. everything worked but only for like... 5 seconds. the only thing left after 5 seconds was a small amount of goop-like stuff still glowing but not burning anymore.

I guess I need much much much more wirewool, though it was filled to the top. do I need to push the wool more together so less air can get between it? this because the wool more or less all ignites at once.

what did i do wrong??!
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#501826 - 02/04/05 09:27 PM Re: wire wool [Re: darkpoet]
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5 seconds..?
surely all the wool wasn't used up after 5 seconds...
My personal opinion after looking at your cages: I wouild say the wire mesh isn't a 'good' idea, as the holes are very small & when the wire burns, the molten metal will collect in the mesh & you'll end up with a large lump of molten metal in your cage. You need some space for the metal 'sparks' to fly out of.
But too large, and the unburnt wool will escape...
Written by: darkpoet


those holes are ginormous.......and by having that metal thing(looks like a paint can)...up top it limits airflow......however...using a cylindrical shape seems like something to toy with....



I don't see how... please explain? don't you get heaps of buildup if your holes are smaller than that? The purpose of the paint can IS to limit air flow. The wool at the bottom burns, while the wool higher up doesn't. As the wool in the cage dissapears, the wool higher up moves down, and replaces the wool burning in the cage , and keeps going till you have no wool left.

anonomatos, how did you pack the Wire wool? I generally pull the wool apart from the way it was originally bought, and repack it into the cage, as it is generally packed in the box too densely...(sorry about the bad language)

5 seconds... not with those large cans!
I would say you put in waaay to little Wire wool & it was all used up super fast.
Or, heaps of unburnt wool flew out of the cages, which i don't see possible with gaps that small...
I might find a picture of the cages I use if i can get my hands on a camera...
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