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#492652 - 08/03/05 02:24 PM Re: COL6 cancelled ***** [Re: NYC]
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Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
And I maintain my original assertion of years ago.

CoL would sell way better if there was more nudity.

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#492653 - 08/03/05 03:40 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: NYC]
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Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!

Registered: 05/08/04
Loc: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
i aggree with NYC bring on the nudity

on a more serious note, there should as people have suggested be atleast one or two videos of each other art that anyone can do well in this lovely community

and also taking in the fact that this video will be mostly dedicated to peoples skills with their poi and staffs:
there are soooooo many people out there with soooomany different styles/techniques that a whole video with poi and staff doesnt have to be boring if you have enough variation of the styles in the videos..... malcolm will do this brilliantly as he has in all of the COL series
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#492654 - 08/03/05 03:42 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Nate]
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Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!

Registered: 05/08/04
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and i've probably just repeated what everyone has been saying on the last four pages
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#492655 - 08/03/05 06:53 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Nate]
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Registered: 14/04/04
Loc: denver, colorado
ill def be sending in a new vid


i liitle fire

a liitle of the rainbow wall

and a little stringing with stix
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#492656 - 08/03/05 08:49 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: fraggle]
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starring Skippy the green llama

Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
hey, since the 'competition' is over, how about replacing this

Written by:

Compilation videos from International performers - win up to US$1000 in prizes




to something like:

Written by:

Annual HOP Community Video Project - a compilation of international performers.




??
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#492657 - 08/03/05 09:03 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Nate]
musashii Offline
starring Skippy the green llama

Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
Written by: nate


and also taking in the fact that this video will be mostly dedicated to peoples skills with their poi and staffs:
there are soooooo many people out there with soooomany different styles/techniques that a whole video with poi and staff doesnt have to be boring if you have enough variation of the styles in the videos..... malcolm will do this brilliantly as he has in all of the COL series




Without disregarding the hard work that goes into each video, I'd love to see more variations in between spinning. No matter how masterful the style or editing, it does seem to all kind of gloss together after a while when it's straight spinning one after another. Let's see some vid of the new baby malcolm
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#492658 - 09/03/05 02:44 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: musashii]
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
v - my post wasn't directed solely at you.
it did address stuff you said though.

"there is so much more to what happens to COL behind the sences than most of us realize and the people who are whinging about no prizes are not being appreciative for the work and the money that goes into it."

i don't think this is the case - i think most of us do realise the amount of work that goes into making a col video each year and the people whinging about no prizes (although looking back, i can only actually find one person expressing an opinion that he is disappointed that there is no competitive element any more, not that there are no prizes) were not intentionally disrespectful. i for one am a massive fan of the removal of the 'competition' tag that col had.

i completely respect your reaction to and disappointment with the comments you've read on past col's but to be fair, without criticism and suggestions for improvement, things will enevitably stagnate.
i think maybe slightly more constrcutive criticism would be welcome (saying why you didn't like something as well as what you didn't like about it) but i think opinions on the format of the video compilation are a good thing.

malcolm is obviously thinking about the formats of the videos he produces, hence this thread and his comments re: a specific fire safety video (which incidentally will create a *sh!tload* more work than having to edit videos that might have a little contact juggling in them as well as poi for the next col would).
if malcolm is unhappy with us discussing the format of entries for the next col, all he need do is say so.
if he is too busy to consider matters like this, we will respect that, but i don't really understand why talking about the format of the next col dvd translates to "demanding" and "pushing".

i see now that your point is that which i quoted at the start, i.e. 'think of how much work goes into these things before you make any comments, judgements or express your opinions' - here you say it again worded differently:

"There will always be room for improvement, or areas that need clarification, but prehaps people should think of the people working on the DVD, before we request juggling and contact etc to be added into a firespinning video. I believe people seem to be demanding a bit too much from Hop/Malcolm."

i don't think that talking/asking about this stuff is demanding, creates extra work or is dismissive of those that put the compilation together.
what pele said back near the start is exactly what i'm thinking (and is what just about everyone here seems to be agreeing with anyway):

"I am curious. I had been wondering this myself after perusing the "other" forum.
Malcolm, where is the breaking point to which not as spinny based arts are allowed in the COL's?
Is it preferably to have a the main focus on spinning/twirling arts?"

i'd like to see poi entries with a bit of other stuff if it fits well - especially so if the other stuff influences/crosses over into the poi.
this does not mean that i don't respect the level of work that goes in by hop admin, it just means that i would enjoy col 2005 a lot more (and would probably watch it more often too) if it had these other elements in.

like i said before, who actually watches a col from start to finish more than a few times...?


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#492659 - 09/03/05 11:47 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: coleman]
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Registered: 19/08/03
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Written by: Cole


i'd like to see poi entries with a bit of other stuff if it fits well - especially so if the other stuff influences/crosses over into the poi.
this does not mean that i don't respect the level of work that goes in by hop admin, it just means that i would enjoy col 2005 a lot more (and would probably watch it more often too) if it had these other elements in






But it all comes down to the entries I suppose, if those who do cross over other arts into spinning, are good enough to make it look nice and are imaginative aren't entering it won't have those aspects we enjoy no matter how much debate in here there is. In other words, if you want it I'd suggest sending it in anyway. The worst that can happen is that you have a nice new video of yourself, Malc has one too and you can go host it somewhere like Sperc or Soton or where ever
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#492660 - 10/03/05 11:08 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Dunc]
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
I feel quite relieved that I dont have an opinion.



Well, I do.

Written by: Cole

how many people watch a col video from start to finish after those first few watches?



Im like that. I havent watched a COL yet from start to finish. For the same reason that I try to keep my own spinning videos under about 4-5 mins (unless theres enough stuff to keep interest and its a good tune) as, I for one, do not have the concentration capactiy to sit there for an entire hour and a half (or however long) watching people continually spin. It bores me if im not actually doing anything. Time lapse, or even a speeded up clip of someting like balloon modelling would be brillliant, as balloons are often coloured brightly

and is a proponent someone that is for, or against an idea?



Edited by Unattractive Cranky Old Freud (10/03/05 11:09 PM)
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#492661 - 11/03/05 03:11 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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Registered: 12/04/04
Loc: bristol, uk
Written by: Unattractive Cranky Old Freud


I dont think there should be any other circus skills allowed on the new COL series, as indeed, it is Home of Poi and it is Circles of Light.

Where would you draw the line?

You allow Contact juggling one year, then juggling the next, then diablo after that, and before you know it, people are using yo-yos and miming.





Written by: Unattractive Cranky Old Freud


I for one, do not have the concentration capactiy to sit there for an entire hour and a half (or however long) watching people continually spin. It bores me if im not actually doing anything. Time lapse, or even a speeded up clip of someting like balloon modelling would be brillliant, as balloons are often coloured brightly





so you are saying that the video should only include the spinning arts of poi, staff and balloon modelling, but not unrelated things like juggling and contact because then we wouldn't know where to draw the line?

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#492662 - 11/03/05 03:53 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: 2bags]
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Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
I would like to see all kinds of goodness...

Surely what we all enjoy about these videos is seeing people who have obviously practised and trained and been dedicated enough to become good and enjoyable to watch.

So I suggest leaving it up to Malcolm...

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#492663 - 11/03/05 05:27 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: _Clare_]
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
Just testing

All Im saying is: "If I like it, it can go in!"

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#492664 - 11/03/05 06:14 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
Lol. Good idea

I think that as you and Cantus have such a horrendous amount of posts, all decisons on future HoP matters and, in fact, any decisions on anything at all, should be referred directly to you
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#492665 - 11/03/05 06:16 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
right, now that that's cleared up
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#492666 - 11/03/05 10:16 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: musashii]
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Registered: 12/12/01
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*looks under the rug for cantus*
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#492667 - 11/03/05 11:17 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
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Still wiggling

Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
comedy genius
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#492668 - 11/03/05 03:17 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: _Clare_]
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#492669 - 22/03/05 04:54 AM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Cantus]
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Registered: 08/02/05
Loc: UT
I hate to admit this, but some of us (me) have never seen a COL. So I have a question that I hope you people can answer for me.

With the video submission, if we have music we have to have it authorized by the musician to make sure that we don't get sued and all of that other legal mumbo jumbo. That's understandable, not getting sued is a good idea. However, my question is, if a person turns in a video with no music does Malcom put in music or is their video simply muted?
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#492670 - 31/03/05 06:50 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: Adrillf]
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Registered: 15/08/01
Loc: Stillwater, Ok. USA
hmm... Video Submission... makes it sound kind of naughty. Like B&D, S&M.... time to get necked!

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#492671 - 31/03/05 07:06 PM Re: COL6 cancelled [Re: DJ Dantana]
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