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#423129 - 06/11/04 08:27 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw **** [Re: Rev]
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Scoiattolo de mare

Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
ok.

before now, all antispin i did took place over more than one beat, eg. anti-spun flowers.

for me, this is the first time i realised you can antispin a single beat. If you have known this for ever than you could just agree with me and point out a few variations possible with the concept, or go find a board with a higher level of technical discussion.

thats the point, or was, untill it was hyjacked by peaple arguing weather it counts as 'longarm' or 'buzzsaw' or something else. very helpfull.

T
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#423130 - 06/11/04 09:06 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: [Nx?]]
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I'm sorry nix if you find me rude.. but just because a antispun -move- took more then one beat, I always thought tit clear that antispin itself could be done in one.. otherwise it would be antispins..

correct me if I'm wrong.. but do you want to know all the ways in whihc one might be able to spin a single antispun circle?

if so then isnt that just a matter of how your circles spin given the distance between the centers of rotation?

I mean its easy to antispin say the hand within one beat of the poi circle.. but something like a flower(shoulder and poi), you have to spin the arm REALLY fast in order to match the speed of the poi circle..

does that make any sense? is that any mroe on topic or am I still in left field
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#423131 - 06/11/04 10:02 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Rev]
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its a bit more on topic,

yeah, i never said it was easy.

got any variations?

T
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#423132 - 06/11/04 10:46 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: [Nx?]]
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well what do you want for variations.. I mean.. what I described kinda implies that you take one center of spin and combnine it with another..

wrist and hand hand and handle wrist and shoulder.. and so forth and so on.. with the difficulty being the poi length vs the length between centers of rotation.. since that determines the speed of the respective side..

I'm nto sure what else you mean by variations.. since I know I'm more on topic..


edit: oh and what of 3 centers and 4 centers of rotation.. where you have poi spinning forward, hand rotating backwards and arm moving forward.. lol.. and other such nonsense...


Edited by Rev (06/11/04 11:17 AM)
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#423133 - 06/11/04 12:30 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Rev]
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wrist anti-spins dont work for me *shrug*

has anyone actually had ago at that 4 point anti-fountain? its really nifty. specially if you add in "invert plane anti-spin" wich kinda happens anyway.

how about trying to split the anti 1 up one down? how does this affect hyperloops? I know if you tangle then wing your hands backwards it goes all weird....

T
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#423134 - 06/11/04 12:50 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: [Nx?]]
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tnalges with the hands backwards don't go weird... i talked about them almost a year ago.. you can wind thepoi just as you cna counter wind them.. with tangles you cnamove your hands like acomplete gyrascope in any way without seriously affecting the spin of the poi themselves.. but that's another topic for another day..
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#423135 - 06/11/04 07:03 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: MikeIcon]
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I do'nt have time to read all the posts and enter the argument but I was shown these antispin buzzsaw seperations by a Japanese spinner in Bangkok and they're lovely.

Only doing one hand speration at a time while the other stays still and then back into buzzsaw...tis a nice variation...
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#423136 - 17/11/04 03:09 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: DeepSoulSheep]
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i just realised anti-spin buzzsaw is the same as a wall plane buzzsaw if you squash it.

--ben

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#423137 - 17/11/04 05:11 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: tenticle]
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I just realized every single poi move is the same as spinning circles at your side if you put it elsewhere...
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#423138 - 17/11/04 05:14 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: MikeIcon]
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LMAO...

I ahve to disagree.. I don't feel that stalls or traces look like spinning circles in any plane :P

just giving you crap because of your sig line..
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#423139 - 18/11/04 03:42 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Rev]
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ICoN, you got it in one.

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#423140 - 19/11/04 07:18 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: tenticle]
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I ahve to disagree.. I don't feel that stalls or traces look like spinning circles in any plane :P





you know you're allowed change 'plane' mid circle, right? =)

there are spheres of potentially infinite size along every point of arc any part of the poi travels on. the forces involved in changing the direction from any other arc to that new sphere's arc is what poi is all about. and for tracers and anything else you can come up with to be contrary: every line is a circle around a sphere of infinite size.

-- dut


Edited by Dut (19/11/04 07:24 AM)

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#423141 - 19/11/04 10:41 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Dut]
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Registered: 27/03/03
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Damn, you just got schooled, Rev...

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#423142 - 19/11/04 11:50 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: MikeIcon]
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^^ I thought you schooled everyone first.

actually, i'm sure Rev knows all this, and was just being goofy. i wouldn't mind him schooling me on a few things, I'm sure!!

-- dut

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#423143 - 19/11/04 12:38 PM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Dut]
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Registered: 27/03/03
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Nah, Im horrible at school.

Rev is pretty goofy though...

...Goofy lookin!

::Gets his punches in before Rev actually gets home::
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#423144 - 21/11/04 10:55 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: MikeIcon]
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LOL...

I think it was keoki that said something to the effect of:
"You know you've made it when people hate on you.. They hate on you because they're jealous.."

but alas.. I suppose rev isnt allowed to make jokes about things like single points in space (ie a stall which is static).. its not about direction change.. because at that point you are deifning a pre and post arc.. a stall is a kinetic energy 0 move.. thus can't have an arc, because it doesnt move.. no arc.. no circle.. :-P but who cares.. don't we have better things to argue about then points and circles?!?
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#423145 - 21/11/04 11:20 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: Rev]
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What about stall flowers?? Those make crescent shapes
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#423146 - 21/11/04 11:23 AM Re: anti-spin buzzsaw [Re: MikeIcon]
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did I say stall flowers.. ???

I said stalls.. like the oops.. my poi stopped moving.. guess I should do something else with it..
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