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#409245 - 07/10/04 11:48 PM Hybrid Moves ***
Analemma Offline
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Registered: 22/05/03
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Really tricky, and I dont recommend them unless one is confident with isolations, otherwise they look quite ugly.

The essence of hybrid moves is to play an isolation with one, and an extension with the other hand.

In an isolation your hand is spinning Opposite to the Poi-head - and in an extension your hand is spinning With the Poi-head -> So with hybrid moves: If you spin your hands sametime the Poi swing splittime and the other way round.

Try this: Wheel-plane. Shorten only one Poi and play an extension (bigger circle) - play an isolation with the other hand. Hands sametime

Once one gets the feeling all moves are possible this way. I recommend starting with 3beat weaves.

andy

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#409246 - 08/10/04 01:53 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Analemma]
Durbs Global Moderator Offline
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Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
Oooooh. me like

Am currently at work - but can see it in my head and get what you're talking about - just got to wait 4 hours and I can try it...
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#409247 - 08/10/04 02:13 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Durbs]
spiralx Offline
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Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
Are we talking about both poi having the same centre of rotation - but one is an isolation, the other an arm circle of some kind? So the poi are lined up? If so, the isolation is I suppose optional but does make it easier.

Oh wait, you're not talking about that at all
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#409248 - 08/10/04 02:21 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: spiralx]
coleman Offline
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
andy, you rock

this sounds really sweet!

guess i need to work more on that isolated 3bt weave again for this to look good - i still don't have it clean :rolleyes:
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#409249 - 08/10/04 02:48 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: coleman]
duballstar Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Loc: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
what a nice idea! gonna have to have a play with that... thanks
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#409250 - 08/10/04 05:48 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: duballstar]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
wish i could spin same time. i like the sound of this.
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#409251 - 08/10/04 06:19 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: oli]
[Nx?] Offline
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Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
always gotta take time to read your posts man, thats sweet, tho logical...

how about parellel 1 arm extensions (wall plane) with the bottom poi point isolated???? that would be overly badass.

T
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#409252 - 19/10/04 02:19 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: [Nx?]]
(_..:::N!NTENDO BO!:::.._) Offline
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Registered: 13/10/04
i got that
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#409253 - 19/10/04 08:25 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: (_..:::N!NTENDO BO!:::.._)]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
So did I.

I blame the weed.

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#409254 - 13/01/05 12:37 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Nate Offline
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Registered: 05/08/04
Loc: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
i have tried very hard recently to get this move but its [censored] hard, is there any help or advice that anyone could give me
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#409255 - 13/01/05 01:19 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Nate]
Olive Offline
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Registered: 09/06/04
Loc: Paris 19e
the only trial I had with hybrids .. as u call them,
is
left-hand spins a giant wall-planed reel (front)
right-hand does an isolated reel behind the head
... so that you get a circle within a circle

gotta try your weave same-time / split-time stuff ... sounds good

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#409256 - 03/09/05 08:51 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Olive]
Ronopotamus Offline
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Registered: 27/11/01
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*Bump*

After seeing these again at the EJC I do believe an almighty bumping is necessary.

Last night I finally started to feel the smoothness ....kind of

Beautiful beautiful brainfecking material

Nice one andy!

Ronan
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#409257 - 03/09/05 09:51 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Ronopotamus]
pricklyleaf Offline
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Registered: 07/03/05
Loc: Manchester
has anyone got any video footage of this? (not like i'll be able to do them anytime soon tho!)
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#409258 - 03/09/05 11:34 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: pricklyleaf]
TheWibbler Offline
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Registered: 11/04/03
Loc: New Zealand
This stuff is amazing, very crazy to watch, exceptionally mind bending to achieve, anyone looking for something fresh to play with, THIS IS IT!
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#409259 - 04/09/05 08:01 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: TheWibbler]
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#409260 - 04/09/05 08:03 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: pricklyleaf]
thelost Offline
mmm...i feel all warm and fuzzy... 'no dude, that's your hair on fire'

Registered: 20/08/05
Loc: Birmingham
Written by: pricklyleaf

has anyone got any video footage of this?




I second that
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#409261 - 04/09/05 08:59 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: thelost]
JonnyRok Offline
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Registered: 02/05/05
Loc: Sunny South Africa
sounds brilliant, Im definately gonna give this a try.
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#409262 - 26/04/06 03:10 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: JonnyRok]
Mr_widd Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Loc: Torquay, UK
sorry to bump this again but i think i saw it done at falmouth by simon (i think thats who) and i fell in love with it, although i cant do it myself yet. Is this the hybrid move thats being spoken about being antispun?

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#409263 - 26/04/06 03:16 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Mr_widd]
garthy Offline
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Registered: 22/04/02
Loc: Bristol, England
Indeed it was (simon == simian) although simian does them without shortening one poi and the instructions state in the first post.

The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.
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#409264 - 26/04/06 03:21 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: garthy]
Mr_widd Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Loc: Torquay, UK
arrwh, cool, wanted to make sure this was the trick. gonna go try it all night now.
thank you mr garthy. was coolio meeting you at falmouth if you remember also (i went with nate). this move makes me giggle cos it looks like a staff being spun.

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#409265 - 26/04/06 03:26 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Mr_widd]
animatEd Offline
1 + 1 = 3

Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
Maybe this will help you guys out:

Three beat weave. With the hand that's going over the top of the other hand to the other side, do a giant or long arm circle. Keep this up on both sides until you have a weave with a long arm beat going over the top every time.

Now, with the non-leading hand, follow the motions of the leading hand.

Ta da!! Hybrid weave.

Hope this helps.
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#409266 - 26/04/06 03:55 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: animatEd]
Mr_widd Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Loc: Torquay, UK
OMG! this helps sooo much! thank you, i sort of got it on my right hand side, it needs work but i can feel it working. I was to busy trying to iscolate one and follow it round with my other hand, putting too much effort into it i think. This is sooo much easer. thank you!

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#409267 - 26/04/06 04:00 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: garthy]
mcp Offline
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Registered: 20/05/03
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 Written by: garthy


The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.



nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?
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#409268 - 06/05/06 03:09 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: mcp]
garthy Offline
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Registered: 22/04/02
Loc: Bristol, England
some sorta two person hybrid type move would be interesting.

One person Isolating a weave / buzzsaw and one framing them with long arm?

Hmmm....
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#409269 - 06/05/06 03:41 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: garthy]
DeepSoulSheep Offline
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Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Berlin
These move are hard enough to do with one person, but yes, it would be interesting to see and throw peanuts at.
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#409270 - 06/05/06 03:42 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: mcp]
simian Offline
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Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
 Written by: mcp

nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?



i'd forgotten about that. it must have emerged from my unconscious mind during falmouth, when garthy mentioned chocolate.

kinda got it now. generally involves flailing.

the key was working out that one of them needs to be describing a tall thin antispin circle, while the other does a short fat one.

Works quite well done over the head in a windmill style.
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#409271 - 07/05/06 10:22 AM Re: Hybrid Moves *DELETED* [Re: DeepSoulSheep]
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#409272 - 16/09/06 08:39 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: RaveRepresent]
Salztzor Offline
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Registered: 16/09/06
I recomend all of you guys and girls to play with hybrids in all moves like weave, buzzsaw, fountains (weave over the while turning), crossover weaves. There are so many ways when you can play with them.

You can do them with hands together or stretched out, beautiful move :P

I LOVE HYBRIDS!

//R.I

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#409273 - 19/09/06 12:29 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Salztzor]
splinty Offline
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Registered: 18/05/06
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
really really confused for as to what this move is...can anyone gimme a straight explanation or even a vid?
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#409274 - 19/09/06 12:42 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: splinty]
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Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
If you give me some days I can make you a vid.

But a short explanation is that you play as usuall(rotationpoint in your hand) with one hand and the other one is isolated?! Got me?

And try to keep your hands together to get a good effect.

Once you find the move/feeling you will love it

You can find a better explanation in the beginin of this topic.

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