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#409265 - 26/04/06 03:26 AM Re: Hybrid Moves *** [Re: Mr_widd]
animatEd Offline
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Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
Maybe this will help you guys out:

Three beat weave. With the hand that's going over the top of the other hand to the other side, do a giant or long arm circle. Keep this up on both sides until you have a weave with a long arm beat going over the top every time.

Now, with the non-leading hand, follow the motions of the leading hand.

Ta da!! Hybrid weave.

Hope this helps.
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#409266 - 26/04/06 03:55 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: animatEd]
Mr_widd Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Loc: Torquay, UK
OMG! this helps sooo much! thank you, i sort of got it on my right hand side, it needs work but i can feel it working. I was to busy trying to iscolate one and follow it round with my other hand, putting too much effort into it i think. This is sooo much easer. thank you!

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#409267 - 26/04/06 04:00 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: garthy]
mcp Offline
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Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
 Written by: garthy


The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.



nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?
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#409268 - 06/05/06 03:09 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: mcp]
garthy Offline
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Registered: 22/04/02
Loc: Bristol, England
some sorta two person hybrid type move would be interesting.

One person Isolating a weave / buzzsaw and one framing them with long arm?

Hmmm....
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#409269 - 06/05/06 03:41 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: garthy]
DeepSoulSheep Offline
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Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Worcester, soon to be Sligo
These move are hard enough to do with one person, but yes, it would be interesting to see and throw peanuts at.
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#409270 - 06/05/06 03:42 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: mcp]
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Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
 Written by: mcp

nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?



i'd forgotten about that. it must have emerged from my unconscious mind during falmouth, when garthy mentioned chocolate.

kinda got it now. generally involves flailing.

the key was working out that one of them needs to be describing a tall thin antispin circle, while the other does a short fat one.

Works quite well done over the head in a windmill style.
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#409271 - 07/05/06 10:22 AM Re: Hybrid Moves *DELETED* [Re: DeepSoulSheep]
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Registered: 07/05/06
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#409272 - 16/09/06 08:39 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: RaveRepresent]
Salztzor Offline
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Registered: 16/09/06
I recomend all of you guys and girls to play with hybrids in all moves like weave, buzzsaw, fountains (weave over the while turning), crossover weaves. There are so many ways when you can play with them.

You can do them with hands together or stretched out, beautiful move :P

I LOVE HYBRIDS!

//R.I

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#409273 - 19/09/06 12:29 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Salztzor]
splinty Offline
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Registered: 18/05/06
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
really really confused for as to what this move is...can anyone gimme a straight explanation or even a vid?
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#409274 - 19/09/06 12:42 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: splinty]
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Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
If you give me some days I can make you a vid.

But a short explanation is that you play as usuall(rotationpoint in your hand) with one hand and the other one is isolated?! Got me?

And try to keep your hands together to get a good effect.

Once you find the move/feeling you will love it

You can find a better explanation in the beginin of this topic.

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#409275 - 19/09/06 03:28 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: 16.15.8]
Mot Offline
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Registered: 18/05/02
Loc: Netherlands
Hybrids are brilliant, simian showed me them at EJC and what I saw garthy doing there was unreal.

I've got a little youtube vid where you can see some really sloppy hybrids, but maybe it'll give you the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB7zNbcBXDg
1.17 mins
around 1.50 mins
and 2.47

What i saw at ejc looked crazy, cool move.
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#409276 - 19/09/06 09:57 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Mot]
splinty Offline
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Registered: 18/05/06
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
holy crap thats a beautiful move...love to see it in socks though if anyone feels like sticking up a lesson with socks?
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#409277 - 19/09/06 08:18 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: splinty]
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I canīt think therefore Iīm not

Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
Nice vid Mot!

Splinty, just go out and spin and you will find it

//Thomas
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#409278 - 19/09/06 09:25 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: 16.15.8]
splinty Offline
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Registered: 18/05/06
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
thanks Thomas, i intend too
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#409279 - 19/09/06 11:45 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: splinty]
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Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
Good luck and I promisse that when not if you find the hybrid move you will feel it the second you are doing it. Its such a nice feeling!

//Thomas
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#409280 - 22/09/06 09:20 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: 16.15.8]
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Registered: 16/07/05
Loc: In my backpack
Found a new way to do hybrids yesterday , new for me though, probably old for some of you guys

You can keep your poi in a hybrid momentum in crossover weave and it feels so good.

Howevever you need to move the crossover to your wrists to have the hybridlook and a little bit clearer. You can do it even if you do a nice huggie but the hybridlook wont be so obvius.

Good luck my spinning friends.

//Thomas
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#409281 - 02/10/06 01:52 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: 16.15.8]
Mireneye Offline
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Registered: 10/10/05
Ok, the latest days I've been trying to do hybrids like crazy. I'm at the point where I can play an extension with right ( or left ), doesn't matter all to much. while the left plays an isolation. From what I gather this is the basics of a hybrid.

Now the next step, all I understand is that most people would try a 3bt weave for the next step, now i've worked it out in theory and it shouldn't really be a big problem but it is. So I'm asking for a bit of advice here. I'd like have a some what more detailed explanation of specifically the hand positions, all I know right now is that they should be kept together, but that doesn't really tell me all that much honestly.

Any help appriciated!

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#409282 - 02/10/06 08:22 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Mireneye]
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Registered: 08/06/03
Loc: Sala, Slovakia
The 3bt as I try it is something like a beat extended, a beat normally and a beat isolated.. You alternate isolations/extensions between sides. I cant explain it too well coz I cant do it well either

Anyway, any ideas where else you can do hybrids?

And what about butterfly hybrids?


Edited by White RaveN (02/10/06 08:26 PM)
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#409283 - 02/10/06 09:47 PM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: Red_RaveN]
sketch Offline
Empirically random...

Registered: 16/05/06
Loc: Lincoln
White raven, a nice oneis to reverse weave and extend your right arm up and over the top and iso the left. (both hands on your right side|)
as it gets to the bottom next to your leg, start turning left and leading it back to the top, still extended. then you can either go back into weave or keep turning.

continuous 360 hybrids. the nice thing is that you dont have to switch the isolating hand, and it feels almost like piroettes.

if youve got that nice, try turning 90deg to the right as you extend the right arm, so you doing it in wall plane, and then turn as before but from wall plane to wall plane.
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#409284 - 03/10/06 03:16 AM Re: Hybrid Moves [Re: sketch]
Mireneye Offline
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Registered: 10/10/05
Well, Butterfly Hybrids are definietly possible. I played with them this morning. So far, the only difficult thing about them is to let the arms get used to moving a big circle in front of you whilist the other hand is doing an isolation. For me this feels more like a splittime-butterfly move, getting them to move in same time will require some more work then what I had the time to do this morning.

Thanks for some clarification on 'em hybrids. I'll see what I can come up with this night.

Whilist practicing i stumbled upon some really weird timing and potentially something new?. Where basically one arm does an extension and the other does the normal beats but at the time they cross over to the other side the left poi head is in almost the same position as the righ hand, and the right one is extended.. Weird..

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