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#395231 - 10/02/07 02:51 AM Re: contact poi ***** [Re: elasta]
Learning_To_Cook Offline
It's a f*ckin' Ball, innit.

Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol
I am also in need of non stretchy poi...

I've been playing around with chestrolls and armrolls with the poi head. But then, my handles are super light so they work really nicely...

Why can't I find one type of poi that'll be perffect for everything?
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#395232 - 10/02/07 07:16 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Learning_To_Cook]
Acciaio Offline
Tangled into my spins

Registered: 03/01/06
Great work I have to find the time to try something new from the first post! Thanx very much elasta!!!

A couple of comments...
About wibble matt had written something new on spherc...that is a more technical and correct definition...

and...about throttle? I'll hope that you find thetime to leave me a comment about? thanx in advance!

Acciaio

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#395233 - 23/02/07 03:01 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Acciaio]
elasta Offline
covered in jam

Registered: 28/11/02
Loc: wishing to be in Rio
horizontal foot propellors, vertical BHB ankle propellors, vertical above-the-head elbow propellors

Lx
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#395234 - 27/02/07 02:38 AM Re: contact poi [Re: elasta]
elasta Offline
covered in jam

Registered: 28/11/02
Loc: wishing to be in Rio
you know those move with double staffs where you kinda cross-pass them around your body and it looks really wierd like the staffs are going through your body?
well it works with poi too, if you pass them both from hand to hand at the same time you can move them around your body/neck/legs in a way that looks really cool! and kinda looks impossible with fire!

Lx
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#395235 - 27/02/07 02:52 AM Re: contact poi [Re: elasta]
Mr_Chutney Online   content
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Please tell me you're thinking about doing another contact poi workshop at PLAY (assuming you're going?)

I'm finally making some progress with contact and I could do with another injection of inspiration from the master

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#395236 - 27/02/07 03:03 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Mr_Chutney]
Gayle......! Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/07/04
Loc: Bristol !!!!!!
Chutney, you could just come to Bristol when Laura is back. You DID say it was only just down the road and you should come and visit more often
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#395237 - 27/02/07 03:28 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Gayle......!]
Mr_Chutney Online   content
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Yep, you're right... I have been lame

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#395238 - 27/02/07 04:08 PM Re: contact poi [Re: Mr_Chutney]
elasta Offline
covered in jam

Registered: 28/11/02
Loc: wishing to be in Rio
well I'm really hoping to be at PLAY this year, it's one of the most njoyable festies ever for me!!... but now that it's in July... well, we'll see.

still, I'm back from Brazil to Brizzle in April, and actually I'm considering being back in time for the BJC, so I'm sure we can catch up at some point

anywho... today's developments were in the realms of antispin bfy arm propellors... sounds complicated? haha, yeah it kinda is! but from a bfy, if you try to do an arm propellor, you have to antispin the poi in the hand of that arm to give the momentum to the prop.

Looks mighty cool if you get it... but its a matter of extreme patience to get any consistency in this! (well, thats what i though i about propellors i guess, 2 years later... sigh, I'll get there!!)

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#395239 - 27/02/07 10:47 PM Re: contact poi [Re: elasta]
bluecat Offline
geek, level 1

Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
so i've been playing a bit more with the 'pretending your poi head is a staff centre' idea, and can now do doubles matrices, but everything else has gone to crap. is there someone i can show this idea too nearby who'll do more fun stuff with it than me...? pleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeee?

JAM!
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#395240 - 28/02/07 01:22 AM Re: contact poi [Re: bluecat]
Acciaio Offline
Tangled into my spins

Registered: 03/01/06
I have really not understand the concept bluecat...can you make a video or re-explain it better for non english I will be happy to understand what you are working on!!!

Thanx in advance!!

Acciaio

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#395241 - 28/02/07 05:34 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Acciaio]
bluecat Offline
geek, level 1

Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
er. when i'm next near a camera, i will, yes....
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#395242 - 14/03/07 08:18 AM Re: contact poi [Re: bluecat]
elasta Offline
covered in jam

Registered: 28/11/02
Loc: wishing to be in Rio
I'll be leading a 'contact poi' workshop at the BJC this year. Come and learn and exchange ideas!
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there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile "we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne

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#395243 - 14/03/07 09:55 PM Re: contact poi [Re: elasta]
Durbs Offline
Classically British

Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England
*signs up*

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#395244 - 15/03/07 12:16 AM Re: contact poi [Re: Durbs]
_Clare_ Offline
Still wiggling

Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
(Durbian... take notes )
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#868859 - 29/08/08 09:10 PM Re: contact poi [Re: _Clare_]
DyamiTK Offline
a young jedi knight

Registered: 11/03/08
Loc: Santa Cruz, Ca
If you have not already seen the Vulcan tech blog #2 then check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u6NLs3l5s0
Specifically Rovo is doing some beautifully executed contact poi (as he tends to do) around 1:09. Then around 2:48 Ronan is doing some rolls and tosses which blow my mind.

Now onto me.
Based on Nick Woolsey's design, I am using a small balloon filled with sand as the handle in my sock poi. This is awesome because it is relatively soft, the head to handle weight ratio is customizable (I like 3:1), and it molds to the hand.

And a couple combos I've been playing with:
One is where I toss my poi out of a vertical up stall at my middle, then catch them on each of my wrists and do a wibble (or two).
Second is inspired from Ronan's workshop at last year's FireDrums. He showed us a toss from backwards spin where as the poi get out to horizontal he flicks the handle to the side so that they spin horizontally for one rotation before catching them again. What I figured out is that I can do that horizontal toss, then catch the handles around my wrist (like in a wibble) and do a 360 spin with my arms extended.
I've haven't seen it yet but I feels beautiful.

Videos are in the works.

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#868862 - 29/08/08 09:59 PM Re: contact poi [Re: DyamiTK]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Australia!!!! Victoria, Geelon...
How does the balloon work? Is it encased in fabric like the head of the poi??

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#868866 - 29/08/08 10:30 PM Re: contact poi [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
DyamiTK Offline
a young jedi knight

Registered: 11/03/08
Loc: Santa Cruz, Ca
In Master Nick's "how to make sock poi" video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMOtchpP8A ) he has us fill a 14inch balloon with rice and stick that in a long sock.

Then what I did was fill a 12in balloon with sand, put it about 8cm down the sock from the opening, twist the sock just above the balloon and fold it down, and put a ruberband below the sand balloon to hold down the fold.
I also measured out the head and handle so that their weight ratio was 3:1, which I think is best for the speed of the rotational momentum or what ever that is called (how fast it spins when I toss it).

Here is a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dyamitk/2808492610/in/photostream/


Edited by DyamiTK (29/08/08 10:41 PM)

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#868868 - 29/08/08 10:59 PM Re: contact poi [Re: DyamiTK]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Australia!!!! Victoria, Geelon...
Oh my god.... thats amazing.

I'm not kidding... my poi are the same colour as that...

Err... were the same colour as that. I see how you've attached that, thats interesting.I like it. Does that not slip when you spin with it??? Or is it fastened by more than the rubber band??

How much rice is in there?

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#868872 - 29/08/08 11:09 PM Re: contact poi [Re: Mother_Natures_Son]
DyamiTK Offline
a young jedi knight

Registered: 11/03/08
Loc: Santa Cruz, Ca
the twisted part at the very top used to come loose but now I twist it tighter and an extra time and it hasn't given me trouble for a while. That's the key, is twisting the sock above the balloon before folding it down.

I measured the rice out to about 150grams. I like heavy poi. Everyone else I've helped to make these so far makes their poi a bit lighter.

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#868873 - 29/08/08 11:15 PM Re: contact poi [Re: DyamiTK]
Mother_Natures_Son Offline
Rampant whirler.

Registered: 01/08/07
Loc: Australia!!!! Victoria, Geelon...
Ahh, my poi are 200grams each (Including the sock itself) I just thought that it would all come undone, thats bizarre that they're exactly the same sock as what I made mine out of... Quite a coincidence.

Oh and its not the ones in the avatar, they're my fatty poi! ^_^

On closer inspection all the colours on yours are backwards... yours goes dark blue, light blue, green yellow coming away from the head, mine are that going TOWARD the head. ^_^ I'm highly intrigued by that.


Edited by Mother_Natures_Son (29/08/08 11:31 PM)

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