"Firebreather's Lung" or ARDS

Burn concept crew is on facebook... Ask them there

David/Daniel Redl I think it is..

facebook is such a ridiculous place, as they store all of your information that you have ever input, for an indefinite period of time, unless you delete every detail meticulously by hand, suspend your profile, and request them to delete it (which they will only do if you hand-remove every bit of information)
addresses, credit card numbers, who you're friends with, what type of networks you are in, work and education history, their terms of use allows them to use all of your information however they please. i don't think it's fair to refer someone there without reminding them to read ALL of the terms of use and privacy policy. MOST networking sites on the internet are not so bad...but facebook is particularly sharky.

My brother didn't really 'inhaled' his own vomit as far as I understand. It sort of 'leaked' into his lungs.

So what your brother is going through is more vomit induced than fuel in the lungs?
Which, as Doc mentioned, can be worse.
But the fuel he swallowed made him vomit, or did he induce?
That's what I'm not clear on.

0ni, as far as I can tell natasqi was only referring someone to facebook who'd asked about a video they'd already seen there?

and the fact he already saw a video on facebook... So he's obviously already there...

Why would someone put their credit card on facebook??



Yeah.. I put pseudonyms up on those kind of sites... I don't want future employers googling me.

People who aren't my friends can only see my picture (which is usually either very harmless or unrecognisable), and you can't get me there from google. To get to my credit card details, you have to send me a flower and three special hugs

i don't mean other people, i mean the "facebook crew" who store your info indefinitely.

both of them referred people there, not just natasqi (^-^)b

I've talked to BCC about what they use. I forget exactly what they said but its basically paraffin.

I'm curious as to the effects of actually burning your lungs. What would the consequences be if I were to actually inhale flames?

I ask because while most people believe Fire Breathing to be the most dangerous fire art, I am of the opinion that fire eating is more dangerous (for many reasons).

First off, I generally breathe fire with Ultra Pure Lamp Oil and eat fire with White Gas.

To start, white gas is overall more dangerous than lamp oil. It is more explosive, burns hotter, is more toxic, and easily transfers flames onto clothes or other objects.

Lamp Oil isn't too toxic unless injested in quantity and/or introduced into the lungs. Lamp Oil does not cause cancer in it's unburned form. White gas IS toxic in smaller quantities and can cause cancer in unburnt form.

Putting FIRE in your mouth is just far worse for you than putting oil in your mouth. Fire will cause your gums to recede, teeth to cook/crack/crumble, and may cause oral/facial burns if done incorrectly. Whenever you put a burning torch into your mouth, you are coating your mouth with burnt hydrocarbons which increases the risk of cancer in your mouth and all along your digestive system. Also, you run the risk of inhaling straight flames. Lamp oil isn't great for your mouth/system but overall is less caustic. Contrary to popular belief, breathing fire with lamp oil will never cause a 'blowback' in which fire enters your mouth and makes your face explode. You do run the risk of facial (and full body) burns when breathing fire as fuel does tend to soak into clothes and skin over time.

I'm sure there is some stuff I'm leaving out cuz I'm in a rush, but basically, that's my belief. Fire in mouth is worse than oil in mouth for many reasons.

Really, both of these things can cause instantaneous death or serious injury. They are both highly dangerous. I just feel there are more negative health effects from eating than breathing... At least these days. Perhaps things were different in the old carny days when Kerosene or diesel was the preferred breathing fuel.

Some of that is, as you say, down to fuel choice.

Many people fire eat with paraffin and fire breathe with parafin, in which case, I'd say that Fire Breathing is considerably more dangerous than fire eating, as

1. when it comes to short-term risk, we never here of fire-eating incidents ending in hospitalisation, whereas fire-breathers ending up in hospital are common
2. For long-term issues, far more fuel is absorbed from fire-breathing than in fire-eating- assuming that the same fuel is used in both, harm will be greater in fire-breathing

You're right about tooth damage with fire-eating- there was a thread on here about several old-timers who'd wrecked their teeth through fire-eating.

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Out of interest, has anyone heard of cases where someone has died, or spent a long time in hospital, through fire-eating?

For people wanting to know about the dangers of fire-eating, there are lots of articles that you can find just googling fire-eating into scholar.

I'll try to get time later to give people the low down... for now, If you're really interested, try this

http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=f...sa=N&tab=ws

Maybe googling 'fire-eater' is not advisable, because, though most of us here can distinguish between the terms 'fire-eating' and 'fire-breathing', much of the rest of the world cannot

(that includes the general public and some of the medical profession).

Just recently I had 'Nightwatch' (UK emergency services docu thing) on and they had the case of a 'fire-eater' whose act had gone wrong and ended up in casuality.

It was obvious to me, from the description of what had happened, that this was not a fire-eater- he was a fire-breather.

So, articles on 'Fire Eater's Pneumonia: Radiographic and CT Findings.' for example, are not necessarily anything to do with fire-eating, but could well be about fire-breathing.

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I remember a time when I was busking with fire juggling in town, got approached by a promoter who wanted my number for potential gigs.

When he called, he continually referred to me as a 'fire-breather', despite the fact that I was obvously a fire-juggler.