Helicopter staff moves (horizontal spins)...

Watch the neck nelson vid, but instead of doing the move reaching from the front behind your neck, do it reaching from the back so that you pass across your belly.

and its not thrown, its rolled, this is the wonderful world of contact staff.

or This won't help....
If the staff and the arms were doing the same neck move, in the same place, relative to an absolute frame of refence but you were levitating upside down with your feet pointing vertically, and facing in the opposite direction. that would be the huckleberry. (arse 3D spacial awareness arse, I seen to have clearly demonstrated that some moves are difficult to write. arse.)

Ok this isn't clear, I'm going to try to borrow a digi cam, and try to film this tomorrow,
But how do I post it so that you can watch it???

Cheers
Glass

[This message has been edited by glass (edited 20 November 2001).]

is that jumping over the staff when you go below? so far i'm only game to try that with a pool noodle :P
Vik

Lord No!

leave that sorta stuff to xeadia not, you jump as the staff comes over your head, feels really nice..... <ummmmmmmm, staaaaaaaaafffffff>

x

when you land the jump crouch down and pull the staff around your back and come out of it kinda like the motion in xeda's last demonstration (the one wit' da cool long name i can never remember)

Vik

I normally let it fly off into the left hand and out.

x

Well...here it goes: Start with a one-handed (right hand) helicopter / weedwhacker. If looking at the staff from above, it is spinning in a clockwise direction. during one of the "weedwhacker" parts, bend over/squat (make sure you bend your knees). Keep doing the one handed helicopter / weedwhacker, but this time, instead of bringing the head of the staff down (back into the weedwhacker), let it spin on top again. While it is doing this, swing your arm out to the right, and the behind you (you really have to bend over/squat for this one). Exchange hands behind your back, at your butt. This sounds strange, but imagine the exchange as your butt looking at the top side of your wrists (to compare the time...because you have a watch on each wrist...I dunno!). Continue the movement, just with your left hand. Because you exchanged hands, the tail of the staff will now lead. Continue bringing your arm around front, and you can do a one-handed (left hand) helicopter / weedwhacker combo like before. I usually exchange my hands again while in front, and I repeat the whole thing over and over again.

This move is actually a horizontal adaptation of what was taught to me as the "around the world". I believe it is Xaeda's #4 video in the instructional section of HoP.

Now--practice it, and try to make it look good. I usually shift my balance (very exaggerated) away from where the staff is, which I think looks best. I lean (a lot) to the left at the beginning, then smoothly switch my weight to the right during the move. Oh, and keep in mind that it takes a lot of practice to really get the staff horizontal. It's a fairly easy move to do, and it doesn't require much flexibility at all. Getting the staff to always spin horizontal is another story, however. I've seen many people ruin the full effect of this move because they let the staff spin at a 45º angle instead of a 0/180º angle (horizontal).

One more thing--this move can also be adapted to be completely behind the back. It's like doing a pinwheel, just horizontal. This one's really hard to keep horizontal.

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I have only one burning desire....let me stand next to your fire

eh.

ummm...and about the heliBTBpass->heliBTHpass move..

I find its nice to do it with palm spins in there to slow it down - you get more spins per pinwheel that way.

It also looks nicest when you pay attention to the rest of your body while doing it...ie dont just let your other arm dangle all over the place...watch your foot/leg position etc etc

Josh

I just want to say that because of this board I have at last got the hele/waistwrap smooth, twas a trick I had all but abandoned. Also, in the circles II preview, xeadia does a really hice transition roter to helle around the back, I can get it going but she sort of leans the staff out first and I cant seem to figure this out.

I can see Im going to have to start streaching thoes hamstrings.

N

p.s. there is a singular 'stave' and its a short one, I always thought, but I cant actually be bothered to look it up. xx

seems to imply the two are interchangable.

a short staff is a short staff...<shrugs>

Dictionary.com doesnt seem to differentiate.

Josh

Or something like that

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for the record, have a look at rave, poi and doof on dictonary.com and tel me how correct they are in your own uses of the words...

(And I take my medication every month, thank you very much, even if the doctor keeps telling me I'm supposed to take it daily...)

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Staff (plural staffs, staves) a stick, pole, rod or wand used for a walking aid (LOL), also used for climbing or martial arts.

Stave a stick, pole, rod, or the like. Incidentally, "Stave-off" means to "keep-off " by force (synonym "F-off", not in dictionary).

So, Charles was that an executive policy decision on size? I'm happy to use stave = short staff, and staffs as the plural for long staffs. We just have to agree. Err, but what's short? One metre? AliG thinks 14" is short

Every Roman soldier carried a single stave with him. When they made camp they hammered these into the ground in a x pattern to form a fence.
100,000 soldiers = 50,000 x's = one big, nasty, pointy fence.

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Staff for which the plural is Staffs
Stave has the plural Staves
Theres nothing about length in the Oxford English Dictionary. simply it is that one of the meanings of stave is staff.
Theres no diffence (according to OED) in length or anything else.
But it implys that if you call it a staff, you would probably call lots of them staffs (and staves for stave).

Cricky, I thought this was a technical discussion about moves
Now quit yakking and get back to playing with your sticks.
yours boringly
Glass