Black Bush Poi design

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I do not recommend this design to anyone - it is provided as inspiration and as an idea to develope. As you can see from the other pics on the page, THESE TOYS ARE NOT SAFE. Don't even think about trying a similar design unless you are very experienced.

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The wick got destroyed after about 2 burns, so now we have a bit of rope secured around the outside of the cage. The wick lasts a lot longer that way, and you get less of a molten metal build up. Also, the cage came off after a while and is now wired on rather than electrical-taped on (should have known that would happen... )

If any of you ignore my advice at the top of this post and make something like these, then please gimme some feedback about how it goes and any design alterations that worked.

Here's a vid of them in action:
http://www.firedanceuk.com/videos/Black_Bush_Jo_high.wmv
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Cheers.
Jo.

[ 11. September 2003, 21:40: Message edited by: Jo ]

I was wondering if u forgot to add the Steel wool?? Or will it just burn the metal cylinders and they act like the wool? And if so what type of cylinders are they??? And YES i know they are black bush but what type and ... Cage>?

Oh yea what disclamer was that, i didn't see one.

very saucy design mate!
5 stars for innovation!!!
btw i am curious about the name - there's a bb label on the bb pio, is this a UK thing? i'd liketh to knoweth.

thanks heaps for your cool-as contribution to the poi world!!!

Black Bush is a make of whiskey i think - just the bottles come in tough metal tubes - several other whiskeys etc do as well

gotta wonder how much Steel wool you could pack into that - and/or other burny things that could be fun - variable burn!

hmm now all is made clear. thankyou for the light, frostpaw! methinks now we have a new way for whiskey bottles to make us ill

soo, let me see....

you drink two bottles of whisky, then you have theis faaaaaaaabuloius idea! and cos itsa whisky you still got the energy not only for constucting thease monsters, but burningthem too!

cool man, well done, might hafta pass on making my own tho...

Nice one jo.

T

I should have mentioned earlier, but this design will only work with Single Malts. I cannot condone the purchase of any other whiskeys.

Jo.

nice breast.

Jo... just cos i gotta know - WHY?

are these to get a longer/more directional/controlled steelwool burn or for doing other tricks?

Looks like a cool design, easy to reload with Steel wool etc, etc and I suppose it would give you a more fountainy effect out of the bottom, not sure tho I'll have to make some and see I suppose.

Why?

These were the 3rd design I tried, and the reason I wasn't happy with the previous 2 designs was the utter lack of burn time (15 secs at the most)

These have a great burn time (between 45 secs and 1 min generally)

Any other beneficial effects are coincidental but, to be honest, there doesn't seem to be any advantages other than the burn time.

Jo.

[ 13. August 2003, 06:51: Message edited by: Jo ]

Just curious, is centrifugal force enough to push the wool?

And would some steel mesh between the wick and the tube keep those big molten lumps from coming through?

Just been doing some reasearch with Black Bush type poi, points I've noted so far include;

1. The wicking doesn't seem to be essential at the bottom of the can, the wool burns fine without it.

2. You need A LOT of room to do this safely make sure that the neighbours are away and you try it out just after its been raining (everything nice and wet )

3. It is essential that the cage is positioned some distance from the lower opening of the can, this allows the hot burning wool to peel away from the unburnt section. This also prevents the Wire wool from clogging the outlet.

4. Yep, centrifugal force is more than enough to push down the wool, the inside of the cans are pretty slick.

5. Steel mesh at can opening = bad idea. Instant cloggage occured, with a white hot lump of molten steel inside the tube (didn't I feel safe! )
This may work however if the mesh is off-set from the tube mouth as with the wire cage.

Sparkly fun!!!

Nice one, Squarefish.

What's the best burn time you've got?
Do you ever have one going out early, leaving unburnt Steel wool? - That happens to mine sometimes.

Jo.

[ 11. September 2003, 21:39: Message edited by: Jo ]

The problem with early extinguishing of the Steel wool seems to rely on how tighly its's packed; too tight and it goes out, like any other fuel it needs oxygen to burn (except thermite, lets not go there!)

Thermite.... now that brings back memories....

Somtimes I wonder how I survived my childhood

Anyways, I'm with you re: not packing it too tight. I do like to have that bit of wickage for just in case though...

Jo.

Might be slightly off topic but...

thermite = crack for pyros

Crack for pyros eh? sounds nice....

What about mixing in magnesium or titanium flakes with the Steel wool; crackling white sparks and mini suns anyone?
(I'll have my order of bandages on the side with the burn dressing, please waitress....)

...fun and games...fun and games...fun and games...

WOW
that looks......really really really good fun.
im going to make some.

step one. buy some whiskey
he he he he.

ive thought about putting magnesium ribbon n with the Wire wool i use in cages. but

but you realized you liked your body without lookin like swiss cheese? Magnesium strips will burn through an engine block..