Inversions, insides, atomics, oh my!

ok, non sequiter anyone?

meg too right, turning is the trick.

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T

I don't see how turning is the hard part. If your doing a forward atomic weave in front of you you just have to figure out the hand motions to go to a reverse atomic weave behind you. I tell the direction of the atomic weaves by which way the poi are spinning when you bring them to your sides. It looks really nice when you do it in the wall plane. If your morphing the atom while turning I could see why sometimes you might be in an awkward hand postion but with some experimenting you should be able to figure out how to move your hands to make it work. Sometimes though I end up turning from a forward atomic weave to a forward atomic weave I don't know hwo I do this. Spinning atomic is like quantum physics, the old rules of spinning don't always seem to apply.



On another note I always spun atomic with the poi short but I am totally digging isloating atoms with long poi. It looks like it doesn't make sense. If that makes sense. I used to think doing this with long poi wouldn't look as good as with a shorter length but they both have thei advantages and drawbacks.



I was also wondering if the crane is a same-time inversion. I was confused with what inversions were for a long time and therefore didn't understand what crane meant. If thats what it is I think it's one of my favorite little tricks at the moment.

crane is a basic poi formation such as reels, weave/cross follow or butterfly, with special applications while doing atomics.

That translates from arashian as: a same direction butterfly in which the timing changes in each half circle, so that the poi that is leading in the first half is trailing in the second half.. Which is extremely useful with atomics, since atomics are just butterflies, half of which are same direction equivalent.. So it makes lots of transitions through them much nicer...

well,

what I think arashi is saying is that cran is a subset of the moves that can have theier centre of spins close together, but in the atomic form relates to what I would call the clash state in this diagram here

at least thats what I think arashi means.

T

What i like about atomics is that they sit right between being a butterfly and being weave.

So you get loads of crazy patterns where you've got the hand movement of say a 3 beat weave but the poi look like a butterfly and so on.

What i also like is that noobs naturally spin atomic. ie with dodgy planes and plane breaks and all sorts of stuff that we drill out of them only to reintroduce later on. I've got a great bit of video of this noobie who can't weave very well, can't butterfly too good, then pulls of this insane atomic turn that looked wicked.

I've not read this thread but had the delight of arashi showing me some stuff at uberpoi. What strikes me as most important is this:

There is just 1 atomic structure, it's a cross with 4 quadrants that your hands can be in, you just need to consider which quadrant each hand is in.

I just play around with moving 1 hand to a differnt quadrant and seeing what happens. Either the pattern works normally, or it works tangled. I think any one that gets tangled works if you cross your arms.

Other than that i haven't explored them much. Except playing with 1st and 2nd degree crossers.

Laters,

m

yes yes and yes


wow we just reduced the "gist" of everything in this thread to 3 posts

oui jaaa yes

that sounds more like the magic words of le capitain on über and ejc **

one of those really big bonus points for atomic is ur body is freeeeeee

inversions and cranes are vehicules to change from one atomic position to the other up down forward or backward ....


when are u back from the island matt ??

peace light and drink more water
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I have a quick question that's related to inversions and insides and I was hoping that someone could help me. would it still be an inversion if you brought the right poi under your armpit before leading over your left arm and into a buzzsaw? or what about skipping the buzzsaw all together and just crossing to the other side?

under the right armpit, while spinning forwards.... but I just had a thought for under the left armpit that seems pretty cool. I'll have to try it.

yeah that would be an inversion

T

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Atomic Demo Vid Thread

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