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#123023 - 20/02/03 06:13 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
BlackFireJack member Registered: 16/12/02 Loc: Bergen , Norway	just add something .... i used to fill my tennisball poi with stuff so they would be heavier and easier for hyperloops.. then I started with fire...and my firepoi's are light as hell....had to learn it all over again.. _________________________ I like Fire.. :)
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#123024 - 20/02/03 07:25 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
DJ Dantana Progressive Trance Habituate Registered: 15/08/01 Loc: Stillwater, Ok. USA	weave hyperloops have even numbered beats when inside. otherwise you tie a nice little knot when you go back outside. Butterflys just have to be symetrical. Outside weave hyperloops can have any number of beats. _________________________ we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!
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#123025 - 20/02/03 11:47 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
bluecat geek, level 1 Registered: 15/12/02 Loc: everywhere	working on the 'hyperloop anywhere' principle. if you have the timing fairly good(as suddenly happened to me yesterday) on hyperloops, then you seriously can put them in anywhere, forwards and backwards. if anything backwards ibetter for transitions cause you get a fairly easy one up above the head.... off to practise. R _________________________ Holistic Spinner (I hope)
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#123026 - 21/02/03 04:36 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
NickC Monkey Wrangler Registered: 28/08/02 Loc: Nova Scotia, Canada	Just for an FYI, I was playing last night with the butterfly hyperloop on practice poi and had it going for probably 10 beats on a steady basis. May try to get a video of some practice poi spinning indoors sometime with this included.
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#123027 - 24/02/03 04:31 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
DJ Dantana Progressive Trance Habituate Registered: 15/08/01 Loc: Stillwater, Ok. USA	ten?!?!? the most I have gotten (and sucsessfuly exited from) is about five beats on the outside of a butterfly hyperloop. most impressive _________________________ we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!
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#123028 - 30/04/03 10:37 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
JinX mushroom collector Registered: 24/02/03 Loc: JHB, South Africa	Thanx! this explains hyperloops really well thanx to the poi gods. just one question though is a hyperloop when you do what you would for a forward forearm wrap exept you wrap the chains around each other and not your arm? _________________________ JinX : If it doesnt kill you it makes you stronger The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earth worms dizzy. It will however make cats dizzy and cats throw up twice their bodyweight when dizzy.
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#123029 - 30/04/03 11:17 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
coleman big and good Registered: 29/08/02 Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay	thats exactly it. timing is a bit different but its the same sort of thing _________________________ "i see you at 'dis cafe. i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself. they do porridge." - tim westwood
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#123030 - 07/05/03 10:06 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
JinX mushroom collector Registered: 24/02/03 Loc: JHB, South Africa	i get the hyperloop pretty good on my right side but mess it up coming back from the left any sugestions? _________________________ JinX : If it doesnt kill you it makes you stronger The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earth worms dizzy. It will however make cats dizzy and cats throw up twice their bodyweight when dizzy.
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#123031 - 08/05/03 04:14 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
BlackFireJack member Registered: 16/12/02 Loc: Bergen , Norway	quote: Originally posted by santanatwo: Ok, nyc, I know your problem now. the poi chains should CROSS CLOSER TO THE HANDLES than the poi heads. Thats easier.....But not a rule.....Hyperloops can cross where ever thay want on both chains.... I do a hyperloop where one poi is standing still while the other one swings in a buzzsaw...One poi have to cross by the handle..thats all.... _________________________ I like Fire.. :)
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#123032 - 11/05/03 07:23 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
i8beefy2 addict Registered: 24/03/03 Loc: Ohio, USA	Just thought I'd throw in that I figured out the hyperloop and hyperloop weave yesterday to the point that I can pull it off about 1/3 of the time! I'm taking a break for a few days though because I need to give my knuckles, shin, shoulder, eye, and cranium time to heal from figuring this out with a set of beaming poi. I really gotta make up some new fire heads for these poi.... Oh and it is possible with ball chain, just have to make sure your hands don't slip to different heights as you bring it over, cause when it unwraps one of the poi will smack your knuckles. And doing it by the poi heads you can turn it into a kind of reversal from a windmill, ending up with both poi going the opposite direction of whatever way they started... should be able to make that into a cool looking single-plane figure eight of fire if you get the timing down right and can do it both directions... Just a thought.
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#123033 - 11/05/03 08:48 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
BlackFireJack member Registered: 16/12/02 Loc: Bergen , Norway	Thats one of the beauties with hyperloops....just going smoothly between moves in any directions and planes....Makes it much easier to play around ....and it looks really good ....options are endless......... _________________________ I like Fire.. :)
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#123034 - 13/05/03 09:50 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
coleman big and good Registered: 29/08/02 Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay	quote: Originally posted by Jackelero: I do a hyperloop where one poi is standing still while the other one swings in a buzzsaw...One poi have to cross by the handle..thats all.... any chance of some extra info on this one please... sounds like some kind of crazy gilligan hyperloop a la bluecat... _________________________ "i see you at 'dis cafe. i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself. they do porridge." - tim westwood
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#123035 - 16/05/03 02:03 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
BlackFireJack member Registered: 16/12/02 Loc: Bergen , Norway	No problem....I didnt understand the move eighter after reading it the second time It's just a tangled buzzsaw where one poi head is tangled close to the other arm's handle.....So it seems to stand still while the other poi goes around in full lenght between the arms thats the weave version of it...you can also do a tangled buzz. corckscrew but I havent done it yet..... Anyway....I call it 'the atom' Hope that helps _________________________ I like Fire.. :)
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#123036 - 16/05/03 04:06 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
coleman big and good Registered: 29/08/02 Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay	i getcha now. sounds badass jack - cheers for the clarification you can get this kind of effect by just catching one poi and continuing to spin the other round it. sort of cheating compared to your version though! i do a move called an atom too - its one poi in horizontal plane, one in vertical with the same centre point. there's a really, really nice example on 'because life isn't' @ about 1:22. and a quick update from nyc's question about ball chain - i just got some monkey fists with ball chain and it rocks for spinning hyperloops constantswiveltastic ball chain happens to be great for isolations too... trouble is, now i have no bloody excuses left for being crap _________________________ "i see you at 'dis cafe. i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself. they do porridge." - tim westwood
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#123037 - 16/05/03 05:04 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
BlackFireJack member Registered: 16/12/02 Loc: Bergen , Norway	Since you liked it Cole......I'll throw in another one for you too..... from a 2 bw you let one poihead catch the other then their at the top.......let it go (still catched) in a buzzsaw for a baeat or so......when they then get to the bottom of the circle you disconnect the and can then go smoothly to a butterby (inwards) ......allright to i think _________________________ I like Fire.. :)
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#123038 - 29/05/03 11:55 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
TeachingMonkey member Registered: 28/05/03	I'm kinda new, so it's taking me a bit to get used to the lingo around here. Someone correct me if I'm wrong: Hyperloops and Buzzsaws are just different names for variations where you intentionally overlap your lines and unwrap them on a different plane. Is it possible to make the unwrap between your arms? (you'd need either long-ass arms or short-ass poi) I keep reading this message board at work where I can't try anything I read about. It drives me nuts. Andy!
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#123039 - 30/05/03 12:20 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
coleman big and good Registered: 29/08/02 Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay	quote: Originally posted by TeachingMonkey: I keep reading this message board at work where I can't try anything I read about. It drives me nuts. tell me about it man! hyperloops are what you described there (as are airwraps). buzzsaw is spinning the poi between your arms, with both arms straight out in front of you. also called the wheel or the pinwheel (and probably some other things too; btn sometimes). there are buzzsaw variations of airwraps and hyperloops. _________________________ "i see you at 'dis cafe. i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself. they do porridge." - tim westwood
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#123040 - 31/05/03 04:00 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
TeachingMonkey member Registered: 28/05/03	Right. With that understood, do hyperloops, buzzsaws, and airwraps require you to be standing in place, or can you do them with a turn? If you're 'allowed' to turn with tese moves, then it shouldn't be terribly difficult to do mass quantities of beats on one side of a figure 8, right? Also, Is the difference between these weaves simply the number of beats they take on one side? I recently figured out that if you're doing a figure 8 on one side of your body, you can add an extra beat or two by staggering the rhythm for one beat to reverse your lead hand. Then on the unwind, you just go to the other side and the extra beat comes from the natural cross of your arms. It's kind of like elbow turns with a staff. Andy!
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#123041 - 31/05/03 04:29 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
NYC NYC Registered: 26/08/01 Loc: NYC, NY, USA	Took a break from this thread for a while... but added info seems to have inspred me. "Wrap close to the handles"... I certanly wasn't even trying that back when I was trying that. I'll have to try that. _________________________ Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
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#123042 - 31/05/03 04:36 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
spiralx veteran Registered: 01/05/02 Loc: London, UK	If you go into a forwards hyperloop on your left side and turn to the right then it comes out in reverse and so on... quote: Originally posted by TeachingMonkey: Also, Is the difference between these weaves simply the number of beats they take on one side? I recently figured out that if you're doing a figure 8 on one side of your body, you can add an extra beat or two by staggering the rhythm for one beat to reverse your lead hand. Then on the unwind, you just go to the other side and the extra beat comes from the natural cross of your arms. It's kind of like elbow turns with a staff. Andy! Isn't this just a five-beat weave? Or am I not getting it at all? _________________________ "Moo," said the happy cow.
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