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#123043 - 04/07/03 07:24 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat *****
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can anyone maybe post a video of this move? i just don't learn well with descriptions. although that was one of the best ones i've seen!
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#123044 - 16/07/03 04:07 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 27/01/03
Loc: Indianapolis, USA
Let's see if I've got this straight... a hyperloop is a weave with the axis moved from the hands to somewhere between the handles and the heads of the poi (ideally half-way)?
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#123045 - 16/07/03 04:16 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
that's one way of thinking of it, yes.

as for video, the video section of the site has several examples.

'how to' by bluecat and pk has a few (including the ridiculously sketchy but cool butterfly to weave hyperloop by rob).

i learnt by watching as video called 'drew & stick' by someone called glass. if you get that one, it shouldn't be hard to spot as there are only two poi moves on it (hyperloops and 7 beat weaves).
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#123046 - 16/07/03 08:02 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 27/01/03
Loc: Indianapolis, USA
I'm having trouble getting the axis out away from the handles. It could be my home-made yarn and newspaper balls just aren't heavy enough. Your explanation has helped me a lot, though - thanks for your help [Smile]
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#123047 - 16/07/03 08:02 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 11/02/03
Loc: Bangkok
A nice 4 beat hyperloop weave at 1:00 in Morning Coffee . . .

quote:
a hyperloop is a weave with the axis moved from the hands to somewhere between the handles and the heads of the poi (ideally half-way)?

.... sounds like an isolation to me !?! The video should clarify [Smile]

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#123048 - 16/07/03 10:46 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 08/11/01
Loc: Bristol
its really interesting..

Coleman, deja vu. I'm sure we've had this conversation.... hows your counting?

When I do hyperloops they almost only ever seem to have 2 beats.

for that matter, saw the video of jonny (my 3rd flatmate [Wink] where are ya ) doing one on morning coffee, and on slowmo I still only count 2 beats.
Funny old world.

I stick in tangle buzzsaws, get 2,4,6 more beats.
and occasionally I go back to trying to work on 3 beat hyperloops, but done properly, they're still too hard.

I count the beats from when they touch to when they separate.

I'm not typing this all out again. ... search
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#123049 - 16/07/03 10:54 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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ps, the poi on my video is embarassingly bad.
i don't do them like that anymore.
so I wouldn't look there
But it was all prototype moves for me back then
many moons ago. [Smile]

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#123050 - 16/07/03 11:19 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
flid Offline
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Registered: 27/08/02
Loc: Warwickshire
i think hyperloops have something to do with putting cake in an oven. I'm not 100% sure thou, it might have something to do with handing me a slice

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#123051 - 16/07/03 02:45 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
quote:
Cake! Its a made up drug!
Today i was playing trying to get the basic hyperloop (I can do the harder ones [umm] ) and i still didnt really get it but i found that now i can seperate my arms inna 5-beat i can get a hyperloop on the 5th beat! Spiffy. [Cool]

you kneed to have the 'twisty/curly/wrappy" hand down near the elbow and let the hand that normally leads across stay onna same side and the 'twisty/curly/wrappy" hand leads off the hyperloop. Hope that makes sence, thanks to drews mindbending for that one. [Hug] [beer]

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#123052 - 16/07/03 10:18 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
as you bloody well know my counting is almost non-existent!
i'll go and have a look at this thread in a mo and edit if it needs it - i've been avoiding doing that for a while [Wink]
bear in mind i still reckon there's 12 beats and 12 circles in a basic fountain though [Razz] [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Glåss:
I count the beats from when they touch to when they separate.

well if you use your own personal counting system we're bound to end up with different numbers [Roll Eyes]
i thought the agreed system was 'number of beats before poi return to start of pattern'...? [Angel]
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#123053 - 17/07/03 12:15 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
Last time i was in london:

quote:
I dont do the 'beats' thing. -Andrew Batchelor 06/0703
[spank]

T [wave]
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#123054 - 18/07/03 10:11 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Sorry, I can't find any hyperloop videos... can someone link to one for me?
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#123055 - 18/07/03 10:37 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
4 fwd, 2 rev (some are on the fade-in and -out): john (moohaahaa) dreadlikely on 'morning coffee' @ 0:58.

reverse and confusion: rob (bluecat-mineiro) tepookatastic on 'how to' @ 3:00 & 4:17.

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#123056 - 30/07/03 01:42 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Ballybrack, Dublin
Quick question.....why does the hands on have to be at 12 and 6 (not 3 and 9)? Did I read somewhere (can't find it now) that airwraps tend to have hands at 3 and 9 whereas hyperloops tend to have hands at 12 and 6. [umm] Sure I read that somewhere, seems a bit strange [Confused]
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#123057 - 30/07/03 02:20 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
its just the way our arms are made i reckon dude.

you can do vertical airwraps just as easy as horizontal ones, but...

i find its easier to do tangled buzzsaws from a 3-9 position than from a 6-12 (the 'maxi-plus').
a few others have commented that its simpler that way too.

you can do hyperloops with either hand on top from either side (ie. left to right with right hand @ 12 *and * right to left with right hand @ 12 and vice versa).

you can do the same with tangled buzzsaws too.


[beer] @ lunch kicks ass [Big Grin]
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#123058 - 30/07/03 03:08 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Ballybrack, Dublin
Nice one, that's what I needed to hear, was a little confused for a change. [Roll Eyes]

And yes tis great. Just make sure you have more soon cause beware the fatigue disease of the lonesome lunchable.... [Razz]
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#123059 - 03/08/03 05:56 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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this tech talk hurts my head. any hyperloops on video? i saw one video called 'spinning in paris' by nomad, and this guy did yhat you described, i think. looks tricky

and for five beat weaves, you basically have to cross your arms to make another beat, like four beat corkscrews.
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#123060 - 03/08/03 09:11 AM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
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Coleman - Those initial instructions are fabulous! Thank you! My hyperloops are a huge mess, and I can't manage it every time, but my arms now have the idea and they're generally working out. Now to just practice.. lots!
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#123061 - 03/08/03 08:42 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
bluecat Offline
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Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
tis a 2-beat cole [spank]


i could run off a swift hyperloop vid tutorial when i return from ejc if you like? (snazzy cheap camera techniques make it surprisingly easyto do poi tutorials i have discovered.... [Wink] )


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#123062 - 03/08/03 10:46 PM Re: hyperloop - the basic 4-beat
Glåss Offline
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Loc: Bristol
yea rob cat
at least someone else is sane.
coleman is a juggler now

anyway beat are dead, nails in the coffin
girl sitting on top holding stuffed dead animals.
long live circles

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