#122856 - 08/09/04 11:38 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: Stout]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: New York
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<=== Shirt
Sometimes when i'm spinning and realized my sleeves are up, i slide'em down and just wait till my arms are covered so i can wrap...i find it extremely satisfying when theres an audience and you wrap, and it shocks them
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#122857 - 09/09/04 01:20 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: snap dragon]
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Lord Ballchain
Registered: 21/08/01
Loc: Austin, Texas
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Written by: snap dragon
Play with get burned...... umm who would of thunk it????
burns are burns I do bare skin wraps Over 3.000 shows this year alone... body still looks damn good.
you do like 12 shows a day every day??? no wonder your bod looks good - that's a lot of excersize!
anyway - I do wraps on bare skin with fire all the time.
I uused to get burned a lot, but the combination of my increasing skill with wraps and (probably more significantly) the fact that my skin has adapted to the conditions mean that I rarely get burned anymore. In fact, i am quite certain I can be exposed to heat and fire for severl times as long as I used to be before getting burned - at least in the areas regularly exposed - hands and arms for sure. Or maybe it is more that I have a MUCH better idea of what kind of heat exposure does what kind of damage and I no longer have a snap adreniline reaction when exposed to intense heat, giving me more control and a better sense of time?
anyway the only area that I get burned a lot anymore is the tender skin on the inside of my arms just below the armpits. And I tink that happens to be mostly from the way the poi bounces there - must catch more metal than when I wrap around my forearms because my forearms get a lot more wraps which certainly stay in contact with the skin 2 or 3 times as long (same for my legs) and I very rarely get burns there except for the very superficial kind that don't bother me or leave a mark for longer than a couple days. but the tender skin of the uper inner arm is definitely much easier to burn with lots less heat exposure than tougher areas regardless. also, I haven't been doing wraps that involve this area for more than about 9 months, and I think it took other areas of my body longer than that to adapt - like a year or so. I have noticed the burns I do get in the armpit region are less than they were 6 months ago though - again that may be due to increasing skill with these wraps. still thinking about making some leather protectors for my upper arm though.
even the more serious burns I do get don't really bother me anymore. I baby them anyway just to be sure they don't scar. keep 'em moist and protected for a week so the dead skin doesn't peel off and 6 months later you won't ever be able to tell there was a bad burn there.
ok, that was a longwinded way of saying that, yes, you will get burned, sometimes pretty bad, but that it will cease to bother you so much after a while and you body will adapt to it to a degree. of course you should always take precautions against injury, but also you'll get used to it and find that you can eventually push things father and get hurt less. I know a traditional style hawaiian fire performer who keeps large flames in contact with his body for extended amounts of time and he never gets burned even though I am quite sure I would have blisters from the same exposure. I'm sure his skin is probably ageing faster because of this, but then again, it probably retains more moisture on a day to day basis, so maybe not...
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#122858 - 09/09/04 03:35 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: vanize]
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your new best enemy
Registered: 06/06/04
Loc: over the river, through the wo...
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ummm.... I wear a t-shirt... I try to wrap around the tiny little sleeves on it, but sometimes I just wrap around skin. I guess I'm just a half breed. anyways, I was swinging at the garden of eden festival and I ran out of kerosene, so this other fire swinger that was in the area offered me some white gas. I figured "sure, why not" and I proceded to swing. I didn't realize that white gas will spash and burn. as kerosene will not burn if it does infact splash. anyways, my first leg wrap I did proved to be dangerous. if you're gonna do fire wraps, be smart about your fuel over being smart about your long sleeves. a small metal burn is a small, superficial surface wound that will hurt for a little while then be gone. now if you catch your leg on fire.... that might be a little more serious. take care and be careful and don't burn down the forest.
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#122859 - 09/09/04 04:38 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: jaero]
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member
Registered: 01/04/03
Loc: Dallas, Tx
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I think it would be interesting to see what kind of fuel these various people are using who say they either get burned or don't get burned.
I haven't burned in ages, but when I used to burn I got very used to doing wraps and barely ever even singed hairs. I was using lamp oil at the time.
Then I had to use white gas one time, and got all these burns all over. Obviously because of higher burning temp. So I only do bareskin wraps with pure lamp oil. Even mixtures seem to be a little high temp for wraps for me.... But i'm a big wussy.
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#122863 - 10/09/04 04:34 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: Stout]
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Self-Flagellation Expert
Registered: 16/04/04
Loc: Bogged at CG
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ive had a couple of little sunburny type burns, and once i had a weirdish blister, but that was after 6 burns that night. you could say the hardware was a little warm.
kero/paraffin doesnt seem to burn hot enough to do serious damage if the heads hit you. its all ive used, never had any serious problems. didnt spin off enough one night, did a leg wrap, and got some in my eye once though. that hurt like nothing ive ever had in my eye before. did the rest of the spin with my eyes closed.
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#122864 - 19/09/04 02:26 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: MiG]
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Leader 'Warriors of Light'
Registered: 07/09/02
Loc: Netherlands - Breda
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Anyone experience with Citronella Oil?? I thought it was just the same as lampoil, only with a disgusting smell, but my fire eat routine... I do trails without leaving trails, and with normal lampoil that is no problem for me, but when I did it with Citronella oil (couldn't find something better) I got burned Immediately, very, very fast, without metal exposed, only cotton...
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#122865 - 19/09/04 02:28 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: Face_NL]
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Leader 'Warriors of Light'
Registered: 07/09/02
Loc: Netherlands - Breda
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ow ps about the first Pumpkin Post Please do not try to protect yourself with vaseline, it will only make burns more likely because it will absorb the heat, so your skin stays in longer contact with the heat.... <and people will think you're doing a 'trick' when they see you rub your arms with something, and it is a little bit more than a trick right?!
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#122867 - 20/09/04 10:58 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: onewheeldave]
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I am a blue spiral
Registered: 03/08/04
Loc: Southampton
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White spirit = burns eventually, especially during extended sessions. Parrafin/kerosene all the way!
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#122868 - 21/09/04 12:22 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: nearly_all_gone]
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enthusiast
Registered: 20/09/04
Loc: Exeter
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Ive only just started doing warps with fire. Until now i havent been brave enough, i was still scared silly when i did it. I think im going to practice more with unlit wicks. hehe. This thread is really helpful so fankees everyone 
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#122869 - 26/09/04 02:03 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: Facelessjoker]
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King of Fools
Registered: 30/05/04
Loc: Cornwall, UK
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I'm a skin. Although, recently it's got a bit nippier out, so I've started wearing more clothing. Don't like burning clothes though, and whilst I burnt myself quite a lot with my (now expired) Monkey Fists, it's only little scratches and burns. Nothing too serious. I did a weave-bicep wrap-TTN the other day with Bradfire's double 4"ers (on cable) and I have a lovely gouge on the back of my arm. Probably from the cable.
Oh yeah, and paraffin all the way. At £2.55 for 4 litres, how can you go wrong?
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#122870 - 28/09/04 06:47 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: Mags The Jedi]
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Self-Flagellation Expert
Registered: 16/04/04
Loc: Bogged at CG
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i also find that dog chain works great for wraps. ball chain can get stuck on itself, and not release, and i''ve had wire try to do its best to cut my arm off when i pulled it to release.
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#122871 - 28/09/04 01:46 PM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: MiG]
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Former Raver Invader... Not sure what i am now...
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Southern California, USA
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i've used my friends ball chain fire poi and it's a little harder than the shoelaces and glowsticks i use at raves but i was able to get tech tricks off and wraps weren't really a problem either.
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#122872 - 02/03/06 10:10 AM
Re: wraps fire?
[Re: little nick]
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newbie
Registered: 19/02/06
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ive got sick wraps you must see but before that when doing wraps in your rouitines wear long sleaves. the chains get hot and cause burns not mistakes.when i first started my wraps i burt my arms like 50 times in one set due to the tricks i preform. so wherever the chains are gonna wrap make sure skin is covered
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